HP Spectre X2

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alextrela

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28 November 2011
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Μια πολυ καλή πρόταση ανακοινώθηκε αυτές τις ημέρες απο την HP ως μια αξιόλογη εναλλακτική έναντι του Surface Pro 4 με μοναδικά χαρακτηριστικά,ομοιότητες αλλα και πλεονεκτήματα.

Πρωτο και βασικό πλεονέκτημα οτι περιλαμβάνει 2 USB C θύρες και περιλαμβάνει και πιο ισχυρούς επεξεργαστές των Core M δηλαδη εκδόσεις απο m3 του entry level SP4 εως και m5/m7.

Επίσης έρχεται στον εξοπλισμο με Wacom Digitizer.

Οι ομοιότητες ειναι οτι έχουν κοινό aspect ratio δηλαδη 3:2 και οτι η HP εχει ενσωματώσει εναν ιδιαίτερο σε σχεδιασμό kickstand.

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http://www.engadget.com/2015/10/07/hp-spectre-x2/
http://store.hp.com/us/en/ContentVi...d=-1&catalogId=10051&eSpotName=new-detachable
http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/7/9469029/hp-spectre-x2-surface-competitor-announced


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Product specifications

Operating system
Windows 10 Home 64

Processor
Intel� CoreM3-6Y30 with Intel HD Graphics 515 (900 MHz, up to 2.2 GHz, 4 MB cache, 2 cores) up to Intel CoreM7-6Y75 with IntelHD Graphics 515 (1.2 GHz, up to 3.1 GHz, 4 MB cache, 2 cores)

Graphics
Intel� HD Graphics 515

Display
12" diagonal WUXGA+ IPS WLED-backlit touch screen (1920 x 1280)

Memory
4 GB LPDDR3 SDRAM up to 8 GB LPDDR3 SDRAM (onboard)

Hard drive
128 GB mSATA SSD up to 256 GB mSATA SSD

Wireless
Intel 802.11ac (2x2) and Bluetooth� 4.0 Combo

Power supply
45 W AC power adapter

Battery
3-cell, 42 Wh Li-ion polymer

Battery life
Up to 10 hours

Ports
2 USB 2.0 (Type-C)
1 headphone/microphone combo

Expansion slots
1 microSD media card reader

Energy efficiency
ENERGY STAR� certified; EPEAT� Silver registered

Webcam
5 MP HP TrueVision Webcam (front-facing) with integrated dual array digital microphone; 8 MP HP TrueVision Webcam (rear-facing); Intel� RealSenseℒ 3D Camera with dual digital microphone

Audio
Bang & Olufsen; Quad speakers

Color
Natural silver

Pointing devices
Touchpad with multi-touch gesture support

Keyboard
Full-size island-style backlit

Dimensions
11.81 x 8.23 x 0.31 in (tablet); 11.81 x 8.23 x 0.52 in (tablet and base)

Weight
1.87 lb (tablet); 2.68 lb (tablet and base)
 

alextrela

Supreme Member
28 November 2011
3,129
Τελικά η HP θα προσφέρει μια ελαφρώς διαφοροποιημένη version εστιασμένοι στο πιο business segment της αγοράς με τα ανάλογα feature που θα ενσωματώνει.

Διαθέσιμο απο τον Γενάρη του 16.
HP launches fanless Elite x2 1012 tablet with Intel Core M Skylake for $899 and up
http://liliputing.com/2015/11/hp-launches-fafor-899-and-up.html

Κατα τα αλλα διατηρεί κατα 99% το σχεδιαστικό κομμάτι και form factor απλά θα ειναι εξ ολοκλήρου απο αλουμίνιο κατασκευή σε αντιθεση stainless steel στο Spectre X2 με δυνατότητα επισκευής/αντικατάστασης κάποιον components under the hood οπως η μπαταρια η ο SSD και η προσθήκη μνήμης.

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alextrela

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28 November 2011
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HP Spectre x2 review: A Surface clone for a lot less cash
It has touch. It has pen support. It has the same cover-style keyboard. But there are differences, and we dive deep into them here.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3010...view-a-surface-clone-for-a-lot-less-cash.html

Conclusion
So is the Spectre x2 a better Surface than the Surface Pro 4? I had high hopes, but it looks like Microsoft's higher-end components are paying off.

For a first attempt, though, this ain’t bad. I really see the Spectre s2 as more of a half step back behind the Surface Pro 4. For people who just want the same form factor for general use, the Spectre X2 is a worthy alternative and certainly gives you more value against the Surface Pro 4, and more performance against the Surface 3.
 

alextrela

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28 November 2011
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HP Spectre x2 review: A less expensive Surface rival
If only it had longer battery life and were more comfortable to use in the lap.

http://www.engadget.com/2015/12/16/hp-spectre-x2-review/



Pros

Less expensive than rival machines and includes a keyboard, too
Comfortable typing experience
Adjustable kickstand
Decent audio
Uses Intel's depth-sensing RealSense camera setup
Supports pressure-sensitive pen input

Cons

Doesn't support Windows Hello, despite having RealSense cameras
Touchpad can be flaky
Not always comfortable to use in the lap
Slower than its rivals with shorter battery life
Despite having a Core M chip, isn't necessarily thinner or lighter than "Core i" systems


Summary

The Spectre x2 undercuts its competitors with a lower price that includes a keyboard in the box (and it's a very comfortable keyboard, at that). Still, for more money you could buy a similar product with faster performance, longer battery life and a sharper screen. That means the x2 is a good deal for the money, but not the best in its class
 

alextrela

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28 November 2011
3,129
Δεν την παλεύουν στην HP για την τιμή λανσαρίσματος της συσκευής στην Ευρώπη.
Απαράδεκτη υψηλή τιμή

HP Spectre x2 12 now available in parts of Europe
The Microsoft Surface competitor comes standard with detachable keyboard starting at 1300 Euros

http://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-Spectre-x2-12-now-available-in-parts-of-Europe.156816.0.html

The less expensive Core m3 configuration will cost 1300 Euros and offers 4 GB DDR3L RAM while the Core m7 model will retail for 1400 Euros and offers 8 GB RAM
 

ΒΛΑΣΙΔΗΣ

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19 June 2006
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Θεσσαλονίκη
Δεν την παλεύουν στην HP για την τιμή λανσαρίσματος της συσκευής στην Ευρώπη.
Απαράδεκτη υψηλή τιμή

HP Spectre x2 12 now available in parts of Europe
The Microsoft Surface competitor comes standard with detachable keyboard starting at 1300 Euros

http://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-Spectre-x2-12-now-available-in-parts-of-Europe.156816.0.html

The less expensive Core m3 configuration will cost 1300 Euros and offers 4 GB DDR3L RAM while the Core m7 model will retail for 1400 Euros and offers 8 GB RAM

zbong!!!!!
 

alextrela

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28 November 2011
3,129
Πάντως το Elite X2 που αποτελει η παραλλαγή του Spectre αλλα με πιο business class δυνατότητες μέσα στον Γεναρη θα ειναι διαθέσιμο και στην Ευρωπη με αρκετα ενδιαφέροντα specs/χαρακτηριστικά συν τη δυνατότητα οτι μπορείς να αναβαθμίσεις/αλλάξεις μπαταρια και SSD και στα συν τα 3 ετη εγγύηση.

Εχει εδω διαφορα configuration με τιμές απο 900 ευρω και το πληκτρολόγιο στον εξοπλισμο.
http://geizhals.eu/?fs=HP+Elite+1012+x2&m=1
http://store.hp.com/GermanyStore/Merch/product.aspx?sel=NTB&id=L5H02EA&opt=ABD#specs

Καποια πλεονεκτήματα σε σχέση με τα Surface Pro 4 ειναι τα παρακάτω.

Key advantages of Elite X2 1012

Fanless Core M (up to M7)
Components can be self-serviced/replaced
PCIe based M.2. NVMe SSD (you can replace that with a Samsung 950 Pro - 2,500 MB/s read and 1,500 MB/s write speed!)
WiGig wireless docking - Superspeed 7Gbps wireless docking within 1.2 meter with all the ports you needed.
THREE buttons 2048 levels Wacom AES digitizer with 3D TILTING support (>60 degree from vertical) - Wacom AES with tilting support
Most importantly, THUNDERBOLT 3 (with USB type-c 3.1) - why stick to iris 540 (i7 SP4) when you can dock a desktop eGPU via TB3?



Και το θετικό εξισου οτι διατήρησε την ανάλυση της οθόνης η HP σε γήινα επιπεδα των 1080p και μεγαλύτερη χωρητικότητα μπαταρίας απο το Pro 4 δηλαδη 40Mh έναντι 38mh το surface,αρα κάλλιστα οι προοπτικές για πολυ καλή αυτονομια ειναι αυξημένες.

Και τα 3 ετη εγγύηση ειναι ενα επιπλέον συν.


Εδώ τα specs αναλυτικά
http://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetPDF.aspx/c04929727.pdf
 

alextrela

Supreme Member
28 November 2011
3,129
Εδω ενα σχετικα αποκαλυπτικό review για το Elite x2



Και εδω με δείγματα της γραφιδας Wacom οχι στα αγγλικά.

 

alextrela

Supreme Member
28 November 2011
3,129
Και ένα αναλυτικό full review για το Spectre x2.
Για το πιο business class version με τα extra features Elite x2 ακόμα δεν αρχισε η κυκλοφορία του(δεύτερο μισο του μήνα)

HP Spectre x2 12-a003ng (K3D42EA) Notebook Review
http://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-Spectre-x2-12-a003ng-K3D42EA-Notebook-Review.158679.0.html


Pro

+ power supply via USB Type C

+ robust, convenient keyboard dock

+ keys' good typing qualities

+ backlit keyboard with speakers

+ bright IPS touchscreen

+ rear-facing RealSense camera

+ decent photo quality

+ good microphone

+ adjustable stand

+ decent overall performance

+ noiseless


Cons

- minor weaknesses in build

- lowest gaming performance

- below average CPU computing speed



Verdict

With its very stable stand and the sleeve keyboard that is "attached" to the tablet, the Spectre x2 can be used as a laptop on the table to a very high degree. The USB Type C ports recharge the device, and provide a cabled connection to existing Type A peripherals via a hub or adapter (included). The primary camera on the tablet's back takes very nice photos and videos. We have not seen that for a long time in a Windows tablet. Furthermore, the RealSense camera enables 3D scanning - at least in the future. It can measure the structural depth of e.g. a face.

The Spectre x2 also has some minor yet tolerable downsides. Some users will miss a card reader for standard SD cards. The stand jumps out of its resting position when the tablet is warped slightly. The runtimes are not bad, but seven to eight rather than just six hours of Wi-Fi use would have been desirable in view of the price and Core M.

The computing power that only reaches that of the Surface Pro Core M3 is disappointing. The potential buyer might just as well opt for the m3-6Y30 version (2x 900 MHz) that is probably even more frugal in undemanding mobile use. The price is the same; the "weaker" processor is paired with an LTE modem. Users should stick to Microsoft's Surface Pro 4 Core i5/i7 in terms of performance. They also come with a faster NVMe SSD.

In case more power is needed in an HP, its big brother, the Spectre x360 13 with an i5-6200U convertible, achieved 84% in our rating. Microsoft's Surface Book, Acer's Aspire R7-371T-52EL, Lenovo's ThinkPad Yoga 12 as well as Microsoft's Surface Pro (i5/i7) are in the same SoC performance category. Although power users should look at these devices, it is not a criterion for excluding the Spectre x2. It is generally possible to work well with the 2-in-1 device. The determined application performance is quite competitive despite the slow clocking M7.
 

alextrela

Supreme Member
28 November 2011
3,129
Και το πρώτο αναλυτικό review του αδερφάκι μοντέλου Elite X2 με τα πιο business focus features.

HP Elite x2 1012 G1 Convertible Review
http://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-Elite-x2-1012-G1-Convertible-Review.164293.0.html


Pro

+ IPS display
+ silent
+ M.2 SSD
+ keyboard dock
+ ActivePen
+ very good battery life
+ LTE modem
+ 3-year warranty

Cons


- expensive
- hard to maintain
- chassis could be more sturdy

Verdict

In review: HP Elite x2 1012 G1. Test model courtesy of HP Germany.

Just like the competing manufacturers, HP outfits the Elite x2 with Core-m CPUs from Intel's current Skylake-generation of processors. The performance is more than adequate for most usage scenarios. Even extended loads don't cause a performance drop. The GPU, however, loses some power - but after a short cooling-down phase the performance rebounds to normal levels. In our opinion, HP does a better job with the cooling of the SoC than let's say Lenovo with their IdeaPad Miix 700.

The Solid State Drive makes for a very responsive system. If needed, this particular SSD can be swapped out for a larger model - although we recommend leaving this task to a professional. We like the keyboard dock, which performs very much on par with the competition. A positive aspect is that the keyboard features a backlight, which the IdeaPad Miix 700 lacks. The battery life is quite decent overall. The display could be improved, however. It's not that this panel is particularly bad - but considering the price, we expect a little more as far as the brightness and the contrast are concerned.

The name Elite x2 1012 G1 indicates that this detachable is oriented towards business users. Home users will find the 2-in-1 to be an appealing choice as well.

So which 2-in-1 is best overall - is it the Microsoft Surface 4 Pro, Lenovo IdeaPad Miix 700, HP Elite x2 1012 G1 or the Dell XPS 12 9250? The Dell is instantly out of the running because of its mediocre battery life. As for the other three choices, it's mostly a matter of personal preference, the requirements, and the budget. All three did well in our tests, so we can wholeheartedly recommend them. The least expensive choice is the IdeaPad Miix 700, which is oriented more towards the home user. With the keyboard and the stylus, the Miix 700 starts at about 950 Euros (~$1070). The Surface Pro 4 has the brightest display, lots of contrast, and the highest resolution. The HP Elite x2 1012 G1 has the best CPU performance. Users who want an integrated LTE modem need to look at either Lenovo or HP. One other device worth considering is the Samsung Galaxy Tab PRO S. We are in the process of reviewing that particular model and hope to publish a review in the next few days

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