Panasonic GH5 mkI/mkII video

pasiner1

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Ευχαριστώ πάρα πολύ για τις συμβουλές.

Τελικά κατέληξα και παράγγειλα την GH5s και για φακό τον 12-35mm f2.8 για να έχει και σταθεροποίηση αν την πιάνω στο χέρι.

Στάθη ήθελα να κάνω το βήμα για Sony A73 αλλά άλλαξα γνώμη διότι καλό το full frame αλλά δεν αρκεί μόνο αυτό. Με τα updates έχει βελτιωθεί η σταθερότητα του AF, εμένα με ενδιέφερε περισσότερο το μοτέρ του φακού να μην προσπαθεί να κάνει focus για να μπορώ να κάνω ομαλές εναλλαγές.

Με την 5s θα έχω 4K 50/60p για να κάνω όποτε θέλω slow motion και speed ramps χωρίς την υπαναχώρηση να τραβάω σε 1080p μόνο για υψηλά frames, αυτό το έκανα και με την NX1.

Επίσης θα έχω αντίστοιχη ικανότητα να ανεβάσω ISO τουλάχιστον μέχρι 3200 και να είναι καθαρό χωρίς απώλειες όπως θα έκανα με την Sony.

Τα υπόλοιπα καλούδια όπως σπαστή οθόνη, 10bit στο 4Κ 24p, dual slot κάρτες που αλλάζεις αν γεμίσουν την ώρα που τραβά χωρίς να σταματά, όπως επίσης μπαταρία αν έχεις grip και άλλα πολλά που δεν έχω χρησιμοποιήσει ακόμη αλλά θέλω να μάθω, όπως να τραβάω σε Log profile για μάθω grading (βοηθά πολύ ότι βάζει custom luts και να βλέπεις σε live recording περίπου το αποτέλεσμα που θα έχεις πχ. rec709).

Όλα αυτά βέβαια για ερασιτεχνική χρήση ακόμη, δεν είμαι επαγγελματιάς αλλά μου αρέσει πολύ η βιντεογραφία και θα ήθελα κάποια στιγμή να ασχοληθώ.
 

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Με γειες!!!

Η GH5s είναι υπερόπλο στο βίντεο. Η εργονομία της και όλα αυτά που προσφέρει στο βίντεο δεν τα βρίσκεις σε αλλού.

Ίσως στην Pocket 4k, αλλά εκεί πρέπει να κάνεις άλλες υποχωρήσεις. π.χ. AF, αυτονομία, εργονομία κτλ.

Ευτυχώς υπάρχουν μηχανές για όλα τα γούστα, βάζεις τις ανάγκες σου στη ζυγαριά και διαλέγεις.

Καλές λήψεις!
 

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Απάντηση: Re: Panasonic GH5 video

Με γειες και από εμένα και καλές λήψεις εύχομαι, επειδή δεν έχουμε πολλά μέλη κατόχους της GH5s θα ήταν πολύ χρησιμο να μας γράφεις τις εντυπώσεις σου εδώ όποτε βρίσκεις χρόνο. Υπαρχει και η video gallery για να ανεβάζεις τυχον δημιουργίες σου. Και μιας και είχες και την ΝΧ1 που ήταν πολυ μπροστά για την εποχή της μπορείς να μας κανεις και συγκρίσεις έστω και με την ματιά του ερασιτέχνη.

Πιστευω οτι το μόνο που θα στερηθείς ως ερασιτέχνης θα είναι η εξαιρετικη σταθεροποίηση της GH5 για stealth καταστάσεις και κυρίως με prime φακούς αν επενδύσεις σε αυτούς κάποια στιγμή. Από την άλλη εχεις στη διάθεση σου περισσότερες δυνατότητες ακόμη στο βίντεο και σούπερ απόδοση σε υψηλά ISO (για m43 και όχι μόνο).
 

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H νέα GH5 mkII ανακοινώθηκε επίσημα στις 25 Μαΐου

Panasonic GH5II press release:

The latest Venus engine and 20.3M Live MOS sensor updated from the conventional GH5
Equipped with “C4K / 4K 60p 10bit recording” and “real-time recognition AF” that uses the latest AF algorithm with the latest generation Venus engine. The AF performance is improved from the conventional model (GH5) in combination with the Micro Four Thirds sensor, which has excellent high-speed performance. In addition, the Live MOS sensor, which has approximately 20.33 million effective pixels, achieves realistic resolution due to its low-pass filterless design. In addition, AR (Anti Reflection) coating is applied to the surface of the sensor to suppress reflection when shooting against the sun and suppress flare.
Unlimited video recording time with excellent heat dissipation system
Panasonic’s unique heat dissipation system and power saving of the engine make it possible to shoot movies without time limit. Not only long-time video recording such as events and documentary shooting, but also distribution using the newly installed wireless live distribution function suppresses overheating and can be distributed without time limit.
Real-time recognition AF with improved tracking accuracy due to enhanced recognition function
Equipped with real-time recognition AF that newly applies deep learning, which is an advanced technology in the AI field. In addition to general “face / pupil recognition”, it supports “head recognition” that catches the head of a person facing backwards and “human body recognition” that catches the entire distant and small subject. The camera automatically determines the shooting intention according to the angle of view, and keeps focusing while suppressing the background omission. Due to the evolution of deep learning and the speeding up of recognition processing, the followability and speed of face / pupil recognition and human body recognition have been greatly improved. It also demonstrates high focus performance on animals due to animal recognition.
BIS / Dual IS 2 6.5 steps for excellent camera shake correction performance
The sensor-shifted 5-axis in-body camera shake correction (BIS) achieves a 6.5-step correction effect that is stronger than the 5-step correction of the conventional GH5. In addition, by using the LUMIX G series lens equipped with in-lens image stabilization (OIS), the shutter speed reaches the telephoto range due to the “Dual IS 2” that cooperates with BIS and 2-axis in- lens image stabilization. It is possible to keep a high camera shake correction effect of up to 6.5 steps. This camera is equipped with the latest camera shake correction algorithm for movies newly adopted in the full-size mirrorless single-lens camera “DC-S1H”, and performs natural and natural camera shake correction when shooting video.
The latest photo style that reflects the painting of “life force and beauty”
This machine inherits LUMIX’s painting concept of “life force and beauty of life” and faithfully expresses the delicate gradation of the sky and clouds, and the depth of the ocean that extends to the horizon. I will firmly draw even the things that capture the “sensitivity” such as breath, air, and history. In addition, it is equipped with 10 colors and 4 monochrome modes that allow unified color settings from still images to movies. Equipped with the latest photo styles such as L. Classic Neo, L. Monochrome S, Cine- like D2, Cine-like V2, and Flat, it expands the range of video look.
Cinema4K 60p 10bit video recording / high resolution anamorphic and other full video recording modes
In addition to 4K 30p and Cinema4K 24p 4: 2: 2 10bit recording, new support for Cinema4K 60p 10bit recording and Cinema4K 30p 4: 2: 2 10bit recording is supported. 10bit recording, which has about 64 times the amount of information compared to conventional 4K 60p 8bit recording, provides gradation and subtle nuances of gradation, increasing the degree of freedom in editing and grading. In addition, Cinema4K 30p 4: 2: 2 10bit recording is compatible with ALL-Intra, and high bit rate recording of up to 400Mbps is possible. It also supports 4: 3 aspect anamorphic lenses. In addition to 4K anamorphic video, it also supports high-resolution anamorphic mode (4992 x 3744), which has the same number of pixels as 6K video, and can be used according to the site of video production.
V-Log L that supports grading and post production in Log shooting
It supports 10-bit Log shooting in the camera and enables highly flexible color grading when editing video. When shooting V-Log L, you can check the look at the finish with the “V-Log L View Assist Function” that displays the image after applying the LUT on an external monitor. In addition, the LUMIX G series compatible with V-Log L, the Panasonic cinema camera VariCam compatible with V-Log, and the full-size mirrorless interchangeable-lens camera LUMIX S series can be combined with videos for consistent picture creation. You can do.
VFR (Variable Frame Rate) for slow and quick motion shooting
Equipped with a variable frame rate that can be played back in slow motion or quick motion in the recording mode of Cinema4K, 4K, anamorphic 4K, and FHD recording. By setting the recorded frame rate higher than the standard (over-crank shooting), the slow image will be displayed during playback, and the movement of the subject can be more clearly imaged. Also, by lowering the recording frame rate below the standard (under-crank shooting), a quick effect can be obtained during playback, enabling sharp image expression.
Full shooting assist function
Newly inherited various shooting assist functions from the full-size mirrorless single-lens camera “DC-S1H”. ・ A red frame is displayed on the shooting screen to indicate that the video is being recorded.
・ Frame display that allows you to imagine the completed form during shooting
・ Abundant assist functions that are convenient for movie shooting
Zebra pattern / Synchro scan / Histogram display / Color bar display / WFM / Vector scope display / Spot brightness meter / Brightness level setting / Time code
Equipped with a double SD card slot that is convenient for long-time shooting and backup
Equipped with two card slots according to the shooting application. You can set “relay recording” to switch from the first to the second SD memory card when the capacity is full, “backup recording” to record at the same time with two SD memory cards, etc. You can select the most suitable recording method for movie recording. The SD memory card supports UHS-II Video Speed Class 90.
Linear / non-linear setting of focus ring for LUMIX G series lenses
If a compatible lens of the LUMIX G series is attached, the “non-linear method” that moves the focus with a variable amount of movement with respect to the rotation speed of the focus ring operation, or the “linear method” that moves the focus with a fixed amount of movement with respect to the amount of rotation. Can be switched to. In addition, in the linear method, any rotation angle can be selected to support focus feed according to the photographer’s intention. Linear / non-linear settings require a firmware update for the corresponding lens.
Easy, high-quality wireless live distribution in cooperation with 5G compatible terminals, etc.
It realizes high-quality live distribution with high image quality, bokeh, and high-sensitivity shooting in dark places, which is difficult with smartphones and the like because it is a mirrorless interchangeable-lens camera with a large sensor. In addition, it is possible to deliver for a long time with an excellent heat dissipation design that realizes unlimited shooting time, a large capacity battery, and USB power supply / charging (USB Power Delivery compatible).
Easy wireless live distribution anywhere
With the wireless live distribution function installed for the first time as LUMIX, you can easily enjoy live distribution anywhere. In the past, live distribution required a dedicated personal computer and additional equipment, but by connecting this unit to a smart device by tethering, live distribution can be started with minimal equipment. You can easily take this unit out and perform live distribution with a high degree of freedom in various indoor and outdoor scenes.
LUMIX Sync, a dedicated app that enables smooth wireless live distribution with simple settings and operations
By wirelessly connecting this unit to a smart device, you can operate and set live distribution from Panasonic’s smart device dedicated application “LUMIX Sync (free)”. You can easily start livestreaming by logging in to your YouTube (TM) or Facebook account, and since it supports IP streaming via RTMP / RTMPS, you can connect directly to the livestreaming service. On LUMIX Sync, you can also enter the stream URL, stream key, title, etc. for live distribution and set the distribution image quality, so you can easily start wireless live distribution. In addition, by specifying the connection destination of the camera on the application such as a Wi-Fi router, it is possible to perform distribution without using the communication data of the smart device.
Software that supports live distribution LUMIX Network Setting Software
By installing LUMIX Network Setting Software on your computer, you can export the stream key of the distribution service and each distribution setting from your computer to the SD memory card. By loading the distribution settings from the SD memory card into this unit in advance, it is possible to perform wireless live distribution smoothly without using a smart device.
Blue frame display during live distribution
You can display a blue frame on the monitor screen to check the live distribution status.
Supports large-capacity battery / USB PD (power supply / charging) / high-quality sound recording that is useful for outdoor shooting and live distribution
It supports the large-capacity battery pack (DMW-BLK22), which is indispensable for long-time shooting, and USB power supply / charging that can supply power from the outside. In addition, the camera body complies with the USB Power Delivery standard, which supplies a large amount of power, and it is possible to continue shooting while suppressing battery consumption, so it is powerful for long-time outdoor shooting where the battery level is a concern. Support to. In addition to audio input via the microphone terminal, it also supports XLR microphones by using the separately sold XLR microphone adapter (DMW-XLR1), so you can enjoy higher-grade delivery with high sound quality.
Wired IP streaming function (planned to support firmware update in 2021)
Wired IP streaming function (RTP / RTSP) will be supported. By connecting this unit and a personal computer with a wired LAN cable, high-quality video and audio can be delivered more stably.
USB tethering with smart devices (planned to support firmware update in 2021)
More stable live distribution is possible by connecting this unit to a 4G / 5G compatible smart device with a USB cable.
Various PC software
Compatible with LUMIX Tether and LUMIX Webcam Software (Beta). It is possible to connect to a computer via USB for remote operation and web conferencing.
-“High-brightness free-angle monitor” that supports self-shooting with greatly improved brightness and color
reproducibility- “Live viewfinder” that can ensure visibility in outdoor shooting
-“Live view composite” that records as a beautiful light trail (scheduled to support firmware update in 2021) -Full pixel “about 12 frames / second continuous shooting” that captures a moment
・ “Camera shake correction boost” that allows you to maintain a stable composition during movie shooting ・ “Anamorphic desk
ease display” that allows you to check the image stretched to the cinemascope size ・ “Dustproof / splashproof specifications” that
supports outdoor and field shooting
・ ‐10 °C “low temperature resistant design” that can be used even in cold
regions ・ Providing a convenient SDK API for business use

ψιλοάρεσε στον Tony …. πολύ περίεργα πράγματα :





 
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nicksoti

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Επιτέλους, live streaming απ ευθείας από την κάμερα. Αν και άργησαν λίγο.
Φάουλ ότι μίκρυναν την LCD, λες και οι 3.2 ίντσες ήταν υπέρ-αρκετές...
Το ακόμα μεγαλύτερο νέο είναι η ανακοίνωση για την GH6.
Βέβαια στριμώχνονται κάμποσα σώματα με 2 διαφορετικά mounts με κοντινό target group και τιμή. GH5 II, GH5s, GH6, S1, S5. Καλό είναι φυσικά που υπάρχουν επιλογές. Κακό είναι που στις επιλογές αυτές δεν υπάρχει κάποια με μεγαλύτερη LCD, πχ 4 ίντσες.
 
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ωραιο εργαλείο το Set Linear για να ρυθμίσεις όπως σε βολεύει την εστίαση ειδικά την χειροκίνητη
 

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Pros:​

  • + Live Streaming capabilities
  • + Pro-level video features
  • + Improved AF
  • + 6.5-stop 5-axis IBIS
  • + Dual SD card slot
  • + USB-C 3.1 Power Delivery
  • + Full-size HDMI

Cons:​

  • - ISO sensitivity is limited
  • - AF system is outdated
There’s a wealth of options for creatives looking for a true hybrid camera at the sub-£2000 price bracket. Including the original GH5, which bears a lot of resemblance in many ways to this latest Lumix offering. So why shouldn’t you just buy a GH5? Firstly, although it hasn’t officially been discontinued, it’s pretty much “end of life” now and hard to find brand new anywhere. Secondly, the improvements incorporated into the GH5 II bring it in line with many of the features and functionality that hybrid shooters will expect from their main camera at this time. Small additions such as the ability to stream directly from the camera via app or tether, and USB-C power delivery, make a huge difference in terms of how you can utilise its capabilities. The same can be said for its compatibility with larger capacity BLK22 batteries. Then there’s the nice-to-have upgrades, such as including V-Log L as standard and the additional cine-centric picture profiles.
The GH5 was already a solid Micro Four Thirds stills camera with a decent resolution 20.3MP sensor, fast burst mode shooting capabilities up to 12fps, weather sealing and dual SD card slots. Now the GH5 II adds AR coating to its sensor, improved focusing performance, a brighter touch screen and enhanced stabilisation correction. The GH5 II doesn’t represent a huge generational leap in performance, but it introduces a set of meaningful enhancements that broadens its appeal, making it an even more reliable and versatile workhorse than its popular predecessor.

Ολο το review του Amateur Photographer
 

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Το πλήρες review του dpreview , τα συμπεράσματα μια ματιά:

Conclusion​

What we likeWhat we don't
  • Probably the best video feature set of any hybrid camera
  • Excellent 4K footage, now with the ability to shoot 10-bit Log or HLG at 60p
  • Image stabilization works very for static or moving video, as well as stills
  • Excellent stills image quality
  • Very good autofocus in stills mode
  • Well-built body with excellent ergonomics
  • USB charging is convenient
  • Cinelike D2 profile is handy
  • DFD autofocus system is improved but still weakest at 4K/24: a critical mode for this camera
  • Currently available live streaming options aren't reliable, requiring very robust Wi-Fi or cellular connections, even at low bitrates.
The GH5 II is the first time that a GH model hasn't represented a major push forward for video in stills/video ILCs, but that responsibility instead falls to the promised GH6. The GH5 II's role is to provide an updated version of the GH5 at a competitive price, and it does so extremely well.

10-bit capture, which adds significant flexibility for color grading (especially from Log) has become more common since the launch of the original GH5 but the option to shoot 4K/60p in 10-bit is still comparatively rare. What's also rare is a camera with such a comprehensive set of video support tools, whether that's the provision of waveforms, luminance spot metering or the ability to attach an accessory to use XLR microphones.

Autofocus remains the GH5 II's biggest weakness: it does a great job in stills shooting but can't help but show some wobble and refocus in its video footage, especially when shooting at 24p. It works well in a wider range of circumstances than the original GH5 did, back at launch, but it's not quite dependable enough for run-and-gun work where you only get one 'take.'

Only the lack of truly dependable autofocus in video stops it being the default recommendation for budget video shooters
We also found the livestreaming options currently available to be unreliable. And, while the Wi-Fi and cellular networks we were using may have contributed to this, it adds too much uncertainty to make the feature truely useful. We're hoping that the promised USB tethering option will improve matters.

Overall, though, the GH5 II is a very capable machine. It's a solid stills camera in its own right, with attractive JPEGs and a good degree of flexibility to the Raw files, and autofocus performance is very good. But the GH5 II is at its strongest as a video camera, where it makes it comparatively easy to shoot good quality footage, whether you're shooting HLG for direct playback on an HDR TV, Cinelike D2 with the intention of making slight adjustments, Log capture for more extensive grading work or Raw output to squeeze every last drop of performance out of the sensor.

There isn't a camera that provides such an extensive array of tools to help you capture top-quality footage for anywhere near its price. Only the lack of truly dependable autofocus in video stops it being the default recommendation for budget video shooters, and that's what sees it miss out on a Gold award.
 

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GH5 II Firmware Version 1.1

1. Streaming capability of high-quality video up to 4K
– IP streaming (RTP/RTSP) of video and audio (AAC) with PC via wired LAN is possible. (It is also possible to livestream using multiple cameras using LUMIX Tether PC software*)
– RTMP/RTMPS streaming via USB tethering with a smartphone is possible.
2. Added functions
– [Live View Composite] function has been added.
– 720°and 1080° have been added as the options of [Focus Ring Control].
– The camera can be connected to LUMIX Tether via wired LAN
– Multiple cameras can be controlled from LUMIX Tether. *
– Zoom operation of the LUMIX G power zoom lenses can be controlled from LUMIX Tether. * * Requires LUMIX Tether PC software Ver.2.0 or higher.
3. Performance improvement
-There were cases where the camera froze when transferring images to a PC via Wi-Fi (5GHz). This phenomenon has been fixed.

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