Input Lag Test σε 47 TV's

Yperion

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21 June 2006
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MARCA - MODELLO - STANDARD -GAME
Panasonic TX-P46G10 5 ms 5 ms
Panasonic TX-L32V10E 5 ms 5 ms
Sharp 46 LE700 80 ms 5 ms
LG 47SL8000 30 ms 10 ms
Philips 46PFL9704 160 ms 10 ms
Philips 32PFL8404 170 ms 10 ms
Samsung LE52A558P3 40 ms 10 ms
Samsung PS50B850 80 ms 10 ms
Sharp LC46D65E 10 ms 10 ms
Philips 42PFL5604 170 ms 10 ms
Panasonic TX-42V10E 20 ms 20 ms
Philips 42PFL8654 170 ms 20 ms
Philips 47PFL8404 170 ms 20 ms
Samsung PS63B680 90 ms 20 ms
Samsung LE40A856 40 ms 20 ms
Sharp LC 42DH77E 40 ms 20 ms
Sharp 46 LE600 20 ms 20 ms
Sharp 40 LE600 20 ms 20 ms
Sharp 40 LE700 20 ms 20 ms
Toshiba 40LV685 50 ms 20 ms
Toshiba 37RV635DR 30 ms 20 ms
Sony 46Z4500 60 ms 25 ms
LG 47LH5000 30 ms 30 ms
Panasonic TX-50V10E 40 ms 30 ms
Samsung LE46B750 110 ms 30 ms
Samsung LE40B550 60 ms 30 ms
Samsung LE46A956 50 ms 30 ms
Sony 46V5500 30 ms 30 ms
Sony 52Z5500 30 ms 30 ms
LG 50PS8000 50 ms 40 ms
LG 42LH5000 50 ms 40 ms
Toshiba 42ZV635 50 ms 40 ms
Toshiba 55SV685 70 ms 40 ms
Sony 46W5500 40 ms 40 ms
LG 37LH4000 50 ms 50 ms
Samsung 40B6000 130 ms 50 ms
Samsung 46B6000 70 ms 50 ms
Samsung LE40B750 110 ms 50 ms
Samsung LE40B650 100 ms 50 ms
Sony 32W5500 50 ms 50 ms
Samsung 46B7000 100 ms 60 ms
Samsung 40B8000 90 ms 60 ms
Samsung 40B7000 110 ms 70 ms
Samsung LE46B650 100 ms 70 ms
Sony 40ZX1 120 ms 70 ms
Sharp LC52XS1 110 ms 80 ms
 

Yperion

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Ανα κατασκευαστη....

Panasonic TX-50V10E 40 ms 30 ms
Panasonic TX-P46G10 5 ms 5 ms
Panasonic TX-L32V10E 5 ms 5 ms
Panasonic TX-42V10E 20 ms 20 ms

Philips 46PFL9704 160 ms 10 ms
Philips 32PFL8404 170 ms 10 ms
Philips 42PFL5604 170 ms 10 ms
Philips 42PFL8654 170 ms 20 ms
Philips 47PFL8404 170 ms 20 ms

Sharp LC46D65E 10 ms 10 ms
Sharp 46 LE700 80 ms 5 ms
Sharp LC 42DH77E 40 ms 20 ms
Sharp 46 LE600 20 ms 20 ms
Sharp 40 LE600 20 ms 20 ms
Sharp 40 LE700 20 ms 20 ms
Sharp LC52XS1 110 ms 80 ms

Toshiba 40LV685 50 ms 20 ms
Toshiba 37RV635DR 30 ms 20 ms
Toshiba 42ZV635 50 ms 40 ms
Toshiba 55SV685 70 ms 40 ms

LG 47SL8000 30 ms 10 ms
LG 47LH5000 30 ms 30 ms
LG 50PS8000 50 ms 40 ms
LG 42LH5000 50 ms 40 ms
LG 37LH4000 50 ms 50 ms

Samsung LE52A558P3 40 ms 10 ms
Samsung PS50B850 80 ms 10 ms
Samsung PS63B680 90 ms 20 ms
Samsung LE40A856 40 ms 20 ms
Samsung LE46B750 110 ms 30 ms
Samsung LE40B550 60 ms 30 ms
Samsung LE46A956 50 ms 30 ms
Samsung 40B6000 130 ms 50 ms
Samsung 46B6000 70 ms 50 ms
Samsung LE40B750 110 ms 50 ms
Samsung LE40B650 100 ms 50 ms
Samsung 46B7000 100 ms 60 ms
Samsung 40B8000 90 ms 60 ms
Samsung 40B7000 110 ms 70 ms
Samsung LE46B650 100 ms 70 ms

Sony
46V5500 30 ms 30 ms
Sony 52Z5500 30 ms 30 ms
Sony 46W5500 40 ms 40 ms
Sony 46Z4500 60 ms 25 ms
Sony 32W5500 50 ms 50 ms
Sony 40ZX1 120 ms 70 ms
 

Yperion

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21 June 2006
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Λιγο περιεργα ορισμενα αποτελεσματα , πως γινεται πχ. 46LE700 με 40LE700 να εχουν τοσο τεραστια διαφορα , τα διαφορετικα μεγεθη της ιδιας τηλεορασης επρεπε να εχουν το ιδιο lag...
 

sfortis

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Γιατί έπρεπε να έχουν το ίδιο lag? άλλα panel, άλλες ρυθμίσεις και άλλο firmware
 

Yperion

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Ναι επρεπε να εχουν το ιδιο lag , δεν εχει καμια σχεση το πανελ , η επεξεργασια εικονας ειναι η ιδια (οπως και το firmware)...
 

Yperion

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21 June 2006
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Ιδου τι απανταει ενας απο τους δοκιμαστες στην ερωτηση γιατι διαφορετικα μεγεθη του ιδιου μοντελου εχουν διαφορετικο lag...

There are some results that actually may seem strange, but we have checked a couple of times.We preferred to leave so rather than "trick" the results to make them appear more righteous. In theory, the panel size should affect very little (say 5%) and taking into account the fact that the shots are 10 ms should not be differences, and at the same address all panels should have the same input lag.
 

sfortis

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ΠΑΡΤΕ ΟΛΟΙ PHILIPS!!!

και modern warfare 2!!

και κάντε με ιnvite να παίξουμε!!!

:laugh:
 

petasis

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18 June 2006
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Εμένα μου φαίνονται εντελώς παράξενα αυτά τα νούμερα.
Τα 160 (και 10 - μα 10;;; σε game mode) της 9704 μου φαίνονται υπερβολικά λίγα. Μήπως το reference που χρησιμοποιούν έχει lag και δεν το αναφέρουν;

[Μην ανησυχείτε, δεν θα τα ελέγξω μιας και δεν παίζω παιχνίδια :flipout:]
 

Yperion

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Στο Πολωνικο φορουμ ειχαν αναφερει 30-40 ms για την 9704 στο game mode , οποτε ο Γιωργος εχει δικιο , οντως το μονιτορ αναφορας μπορει να εχει και αυτο καποιο lag...
 

sfortis

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λογικό γιατί δεν μέτρησαν με CRT αλλα με notebook... άρα στα αποτελέσματα προσθέστε ~30ms
 

SGACE

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Ο τροπος που πραγματοποιηθηκε το τεστ..


As we conducted the test

The best way we found to do the test, and especially the way that gives results strictly comparable with each other, was to use an Acer laptop with HDMI output and let him create a timer with seconds and milliseconds. The notebook is adjusted in clone mode: in this way what is seen leaving the monitor matches what you see HDMI output.
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HDMI output we connected to the TV. After starting the timer we took a barrage of pictures (photos taken at d we verified that the response was more or less aligned in the different shots and we did a quick media, even if 90% of cases it was not necessary) with a reflex to a low shutter speed (and ISO 12800) and compared the numbers appearing on the notebook screen and on TV screens. The difference between these numbers gives us the so-called input lag "between the source and your TV. The higher the input lag, the TV is less suitable for certain types of game.

Some considerations


  • We do not know if the HDMI output of your notebook has a few millisecond delay with respect to the display, however, since the source is identical for all tests, it has no bearing on the results.

  • Inserting an amplifier equipped with a video processor between source and TV, it automatically adds input lag. We have considered a direct connection.

  • The notebook was configured to 1920 x 1080 and we chose a model of Acer Aspire with monitors 18 "1920 x 1080.
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    The resolution of the TV was the native: in this way we made sure that does not enter into the scaler function, or that processor that adapts the image to fill the screen.
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    He made every notebook.
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    The test took place then in the best case possible for the TV.




 

JL_?

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19 September 2008
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Aν έχει μόνο 160ms lag με όλα τα καλούδια (βλ. pixel plus-perfect-κάτι τελωσπάντων, dnm, local dimming) ενεργοποιημένα, δεν μου κάνει εντύπωση το 10άρι με όλα αυτά εκτός...
 

ilias78

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MARCA - MODELLO - STANDARD -GAME
Panasonic TX-P46G10 5 ms 5 ms
Panasonic TX-L32V10E 5 ms 5 ms
Sharp 46 LE700 80 ms 5 ms
LG 47SL8000 30 ms 10 ms
Philips 46PFL9704 160 ms 10 ms
Philips 32PFL8404 170 ms 10 ms
Samsung LE52A558P3 40 ms 10 ms
Samsung PS50B850 80 ms 10 ms
Sharp LC46D65E 10 ms 10 ms
Philips 42PFL5604 170 ms 10 ms
Panasonic TX-42V10E 20 ms 20 ms
Philips 42PFL8654 170 ms 20 ms
Philips 47PFL8404 170 ms 20 ms
Samsung PS63B680 90 ms 20 ms
Samsung LE40A856 40 ms 20 ms
Sharp LC 42DH77E 40 ms 20 ms
Sharp 46 LE600 20 ms 20 ms
Sharp 40 LE600 20 ms 20 ms
Sharp 40 LE700 20 ms 20 ms
Toshiba 40LV685 50 ms 20 ms
Toshiba 37RV635DR 30 ms 20 ms
Sony 46Z4500 60 ms 25 ms
LG 47LH5000 30 ms 30 ms
Panasonic TX-50V10E 40 ms 30 ms
Samsung LE46B750 110 ms 30 ms
Samsung LE40B550 60 ms 30 ms
Samsung LE46A956 50 ms 30 ms
Sony 46V5500 30 ms 30 ms
Sony 52Z5500 30 ms 30 ms
LG 50PS8000 50 ms 40 ms
LG 42LH5000 50 ms 40 ms
Toshiba 42ZV635 50 ms 40 ms
Toshiba 55SV685 70 ms 40 ms
Sony 46W5500 40 ms 40 ms
LG 37LH4000 50 ms 50 ms
Samsung 40B6000 130 ms 50 ms
Samsung 46B6000 70 ms 50 ms
Samsung LE40B750 110 ms 50 ms
Samsung LE40B650 100 ms 50 ms
Sony 32W5500 50 ms 50 ms
Samsung 46B7000 100 ms 60 ms
Samsung 40B8000 90 ms 60 ms
Samsung 40B7000 110 ms 70 ms
Samsung LE46B650 100 ms 70 ms
Sony 40ZX1 120 ms 70 ms
Sharp LC52XS1 110 ms 80 ms

μπορει να μου εξηγισει καποιος πως διαβαζεται αυτο το πραγμα?
να υποθεσω πως οσο ποιο μικρο ειναι το ms στο game, τοσο το καλυτερο?
το standard ms τι ειναι?
ευχαριστω.
 

Yperion

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21 June 2006
43,516
BVR (Beyond Visual Range)
Ανα κατασκευαστη....

Panasonic TX-50V10E 40 ms 30 ms
Panasonic TX-P46G10 5 ms 5 ms
Panasonic TX-L32V10E 5 ms 5 ms
Panasonic TX-42V10E 20 ms 20 ms

Philips 46PFL9704 160 ms 10 ms
Philips 32PFL8404 170 ms 10 ms
Philips 42PFL5604 170 ms 10 ms
Philips 42PFL8654 170 ms 20 ms
Philips 47PFL8404 170 ms 20 ms

Sharp LC46D65E 10 ms 10 ms
Sharp 46 LE700 80 ms 5 ms
Sharp LC 42DH77E 40 ms 20 ms
Sharp 46 LE600 20 ms 20 ms
Sharp 40 LE600 20 ms 20 ms
Sharp 40 LE700 20 ms 20 ms
Sharp LC52XS1 110 ms 80 ms

Toshiba 40LV685 50 ms 20 ms
Toshiba 37RV635DR 30 ms 20 ms
Toshiba 42ZV635 50 ms 40 ms
Toshiba 55SV685 70 ms 40 ms

LG 47SL8000 30 ms 10 ms
LG 47LH5000 30 ms 30 ms
LG 50PS8000 50 ms 40 ms
LG 42LH5000 50 ms 40 ms
LG 37LH4000 50 ms 50 ms

Samsung LE52A558P3 40 ms 10 ms
Samsung PS50B850 80 ms 10 ms
Samsung PS63B680 90 ms 20 ms
Samsung LE40A856 40 ms 20 ms
Samsung LE46B750 110 ms 30 ms
Samsung LE40B550 60 ms 30 ms
Samsung LE46A956 50 ms 30 ms
Samsung 40B6000 130 ms 50 ms
Samsung 46B6000 70 ms 50 ms
Samsung LE40B750 110 ms 50 ms
Samsung LE40B650 100 ms 50 ms
Samsung 46B7000 100 ms 60 ms
Samsung 40B8000 90 ms 60 ms
Samsung 40B7000 110 ms 70 ms
Samsung LE46B650 100 ms 70 ms

Sony
46V5500 30 ms 30 ms
Sony 52Z5500 30 ms 30 ms
Sony 46W5500 40 ms 40 ms
Sony 46Z4500 60 ms 25 ms
Sony 32W5500 50 ms 50 ms
Sony 40ZX1 120 ms 70 ms

Κριμα που δεν δοκιμασαν την LH3000 η οποια για gaming πρεπει να ειναι πολυ καλη αφου δεν εχει ουτε 100 Hz (τα οποια δεν χρειαζονται στα παιχνιδια ετσι και αλλιως γιατι προσθετουν lag)....-bye-