Microsoft Surface 3 [2015]

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Οχι δεν ειναι ψεμα και παραμονη πρωταπρηλιας η MS εκανε την εκπληξη
και ανακοίνωσε πριν από λίγες ωρες το νέο μέλος της οικογένειας Surface, το οποίο περιγράφει ως μια λεπτότερη, μικρότερη, ελαφρύτερη και ελαφρώς υποδεέστερη έκδοση του Surface Pro 3. Η εταιρεία χρησιμοποίησε fanless επεξεργαστή της Intel και ουσιαστικά προσφέρει εμπειρία laptop με πλήρη έκδοση Windows 8.1 σε πολύ χαμηλότερη τιμή.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/03/31/microsoft-surface-3/
http://microsoft-news.com/microsoft-announces-new-surface-3/
http://www.neowin.net/news/say-hello-to-the-surface-3-a-low-cost-addition-to-the-surface-family
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2902...-life-costs-just-499-and-runs-windows-81.html

Η εταιρεία δέχεται προ-παραγγελίες και οι πωλήσεις θα αρχίσουν από τις 7 Μαΐου σε 26 χώρες.

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/mseea/en_IE/pdp/productID.314948400
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msde/de_DE/pdp/productID.314918200
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msfr/fr_FR/pdp/productID.314923700


Microsoft Surface 3


Tech specs:

• Size: 10.52 x 7.36 x 0.34 in (267 x 187 x 8.7 mm)
• Weight: 1.37 lbs (622 g)
• Display: 10.8 ClearType Full HD Plus Display€’ resolution: 1920 x 1280
• Aspect ratio: 3:2 Touch: 10 point multi-touch
• Surface Pen support
• Battery Life: Up to 10 hours
• Storage/RAM: 64GB storage with 2GB RAM 128GB storage with 4GB RAM
• Processor: Quad-core Intel Atom x7-Z8700 processor
• (2MB Cache, 1.6GHz with Intel Burst technology up to 2.4GHz)
• Network (Wireless and Cellular):
• Wi-Fi (802.11 a/b/g/n/ac)
• Bluetooth 4.0
• Ports: Full-size USB 3.0 ,Mini DisplayPort, microSD card reader , Micro USB charging port ,Headset jack Cover port
• Software: Windows 8.1 1-year of Office 365 Personal with OneDrive cloud storage
• Cameras, video and audio: 3.5 megapixel front-facing camera 8.0 megapixel rear-facing camera with autofocus Microphone Stereo speakers with Dolby audio
• Sensors: Ambient light sensor,roximity sensor, Accelerometer, Gyroscope, Magnetometer
• The Surface 3 is also Microsoft's first x86 Surface to include an LTE option

Μαζι με την ανακοινωση του tablet θα κυκλοφορηδουν και τα αξεσουρ για να δεσουν το γλυκο καλυτερα!

Microsoft Announces New Improved Surface 3 Type Cover, Comes In Five Different Colors
http://microsoft-news.com/microsoft...-3-type-cover-comes-in-five-different-colors/

New Surface 3 Docking Station Features 4 USB Ports, Storage for Surface Pen, Mini DisplayPort And More
http://microsoft-news.com/new-surfa...ge-for-surface-pen-mini-displayport-and-more/

Microsoft adds a bit of color to the Surface pen, now comes in blue, red, and black
http://www.neowin.net/news/microsof...e-surface-pen-now-comes-in-blue-red-and-black

Surface 3's kickstand is different than the Pro 3, only has three stop points
http://www.neowin.net/news/surface-...ent-than-the-pro-3-only-has-three-stop-points

Surface 3 drops magnetic charger for Micro USB, foreshadows future changes
http://www.neowin.net/news/surface-3-drops-magnetic-charger-for-micro-usb-foreshadows-future-changes

[video=youtube;owf93l1YkOs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=128&v=owf93l1YkOs[/video]

 

[vadergr]

Re: MS Surface 3 Tablet PC

Αν και σιγουρα κορυφαία υλοποίηση, νομιζω οτι ειναι αρκετά ακριβό.
Αν προσθέσεις το πενακι και το πληκτρολόγιο , η τιμή του στην Ευρώπη (600 νομιζω το preorder στην γυμνη βασική εκδοση) θα φτάσει πολύ κοντά στην βασική έκδοση του surface 3 pro.
Και αν αυτο δικαιολογουνταν ως εισοδος σε κατηγορία μικρότερου μεγέθους, τα χαλάει ολα ο atom επεξεργαστης και τα 2gb ram ...

 

[alextrela]

Re: MS Surface 3 Tablet PC

Αν και σιγουρα κορυφαία υλοποίηση, νομιζω οτι ειναι αρκετά ακριβό.
Αν προσθέσεις το πενακι και το πληκτρολόγιο , η τιμή του στην Ευρώπη (600 νομιζω το preorder στην γυμνη βασική εκδοση) θα φτάσει πολύ κοντά στην βασική έκδοση του surface 3 pro.
Και αν αυτο δικαιολογουνταν ως εισοδος σε κατηγορία μικρότερου μεγέθους, τα χαλάει ολα ο atom επεξεργαστης και τα 2gb ram ...

Δεν έχεις άδικο ειδικά εδώ Ευρώπη η τιμή είναι πιο τσιμπημενη σε σχέση με Αμερική αλλά κακά τα ψέματα το ολο πακέτο είναι κορυφαίο σε όλα τα επίπεδα.
Η MS προσφέρει σήμερα την κορυφαία υλοποίηση στο χώρο των tablet pc με μια πλήρη και ολοκληρωμένη πρόταση χωρίς τις χτυπητες ελλείψεις που μας βγάζουν οι υπόλοιποι κατασκευαστές.

Γενικά η Surface σειρά είναι συνώνυμο της υψηλής premium κατασκευής και στην ουσία ανήκει στην κατηγορία όπως η ThinkPad η Latitude της Dell η κάποια λίγα μοντέλα της Asus για αυτό και η τιμολόγηση δεν θα μπορούσε να πέσει εύκολα.

Έχει και το συγκριτικό πλεονέκτημα του 3:2 aspect που είναι πιο ιδανικό για χρηση και tablet και ultrabook παράλληλα.

Άρα κάποιος που θέλει μια ελαφριά παραλλαγή του Pro 3 χωρίς εκπτώσεις σε πιο βολικό μέγεθος, βάρος και αυτονομια θα τον καλύψει απόλυτα.

Και ο ο συγκεκριμένος Atom είναι ο ισχυρότερος νέας γενιάς στα 14nm Cherry Trail που προσφέρει σημαντικά υψηλότερες επιδόσεις και θα απέχει ελάχιστα από τον Core M.

 

[vadergr]

Re: MS Surface 3 Tablet PC

Θα επέλεγα εστω το surface pro 2 (υπάρχει ακόμα στοκ σε μαγαζιά , οποιος θέλει βρίσκει).Για να μην πω οτι και το surface pro που εχω δεν θα το άλλαζα για δαύτο.

 

[alextrela]

Re: MS Surface 3 Tablet PC

Θα επέλεγα εστω το surface pro 2 (υπάρχει ακόμα στοκ σε μαγαζιά , οποιος θέλει βρίσκει).Για να μην πω οτι και το surface pro που εχω δεν θα το άλλαζα για δαύτο.

Βασικά όλα είναι θέμα προτεραιοτήτων.
Το κάθε μοντέλο καλύπτει διαφορετικές ανάγκες και διαφορετικά θέλω και έχει τα θετικά και αρνητικά του.
Το καλό ότι προσφέρονται επιλογές για τον χρήστη.
Πχ εξωτερικο υπήρχε αρκετή γκρίνια που έως σήμερα δεν παρείχε LTE και GPS option για τα μοντέλα της σειράς αυτής.
Ε τώρα δίνεται και αυτή η επιλογή.

 

[Φρα.Πε.]

Απάντηση: MS Surface 3 Tablet PC

Τιμές σε γερμανικό e shop μαζι με αξεσουαρ
http://www.comtech.de/Microsoft-Surface-3?sPartner=44&newsletter=mailing&shopgate_redirect=1

 

[alextrela]

Re: MS Surface 3 Tablet PC

Ομοιότητες και διαφορές μεταξύ των 2 μοντέλων της σειράς 3

Here are 5 things you need to know about the Surface 3

1. It has a microUSB port and charger
2. The kickstand can only be set in three positions
3. The Surface 3 uses Windows 8.1 and can be upgraded to Windows 10
4. The Surface 3 has a 10.8-inch 3:2 aspect ratio display
5. The Surface 3 has Intel's new Cherry Trail Atom processor

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Εδώ ο συγκεκριμένος νέος επεξεργαστής που θα φοράει ως την πρώτη υλοποιηςη στον πλανήτη.
http://ark.intel.com/products/85475/Intel-Atom-x7-Z8700-Processor-2M-Cache-up-to-2_40-GHz

 

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Ενα πρωτο unboxing με μπολικες φωτογραφιες.
You can check out the device and the unboxing of the Surface 3 in the gallery below.
http://www.neowin.net/news/hands-on-with-microsofts-surface-3

 

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Εδώ χρήσιμες πληροφορίες με ερωτήσεις-απαντήσεις σε βασικές απορίες σχετικά με το νέο μέλος της Surface 3 σειράς για υποψηφίους αγοραστές και όχι μόνο.
http://www.neowin.net/news/microsof...ama-on-the-surface-3-these-are-the-highlights


Q: Does Surface 3 support Always On Always Connected (Connected Standby)?

A: Behavior is just like Surface Pro 3. 4 hours of connected standby, then into hibernate.

Q: Why did the team decide to ditch the Surface text logo for the Microsoft logo?

A: We realized that a Surface contains all of what we as Microsoft has to offer. It is the physical extension of a software experience. To reflect that, we thought it was more appropriate to carry the Microsoft mark. And we all liked this idea

Q: Can we convert the charging micro-USB port to a full-size USB port with an adapter, and then plug in any USB device to it?

A: Yes! The micro-USB port charging port also handles USB data

Q: Does abandoning the Surface RT feel anything like leaving a child to die in the snow?

Seriously though, are Surface RT owners at least going to get a half update (Windows 8.10?). The same thing happened with Windows Phone 7.8, and it was better than nothing.

A: As a parent of 3, I am proud to say I have no idea what that would feel like...

Windows has announced that there will be an update for 8.1, but want to set expectations that it definitely is not windows 10. there wont' be an upgrade path.

Q: Hello Panos, et al. My question for you is multi-part: Does the S3 support 4k displays at 60Hz? Also can you tell the folks that run the MS Online Store that the EDU discount is not working for the S3 accessories?

A: 4K at 30Hz with Intel X7 Gen8 engine.

Q: Does the Surface 3 with LTE have a GPS chip?

A: Yes, the LTE versions have a GPS chip

Q: Does the Surface 3 have a TPM?

A: It has a Firmware TPM as part of the SOC

Q: Will the Surface 3 support two 1440p displays via daisy-chained DisplayPort connections?

A: The Surface 3 does not support daisy chaining monitors over DisplayPort. The Pro line is great for folks who need this.

Q: Does the Surface 3 have the thermal threshold for CPU cutoff like the SP3? I enjoy playing Dota 2 for a couple of hours and this was the one thing I did not want happening, at the already low settings required to play it.

A: Yes we do thermally throttle on S3. DOTA2 not specifically tested. We did test Civ5 and with 4G SKU at 25+ FPS. Another reference point is 3D Mark Cloud Gate shows S3 at ~70% performance of SP3 i3.

Q: How is the eMMC performance in comparison to the SP3 SSD?

A: S3 eMMC is about 50% of SP3 SSD. If your workload involves heavy file transfers (like video editing) recommendation is SP3

 

[alextrela]

Surface 3 in the Classroom

 

[alextrela]

Άρχισαν σιγά σιγα να σκάνε τα πρώτα review για την συσκευή
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2426263,00.asp

Pros

Lightweight. Full HD display with touch and pen support. New Intel Atom x7 processor offers better performance than other Atom-based competitors. Long battery life in our tests. Better-than-average speakers and webcam. Includes a full version of Windows 8.1, with free year of Office and OneDrive.


Cons
Type Cover and Surface Pen sold separately. Atom processor can't compete with Intel Core CPUs. Power connector is loose and bulky. Built-in kickstand offers limited adjustability.

Bottom Line

The Surface 3 offers a welcome price break from the pricey Microsoft Surface Pro 3, and it's well built, offers a full version of Windows, and boasts impressive battery life. But in a crowded field, a solid tablet that relies heavily on expensive accessories falls short of top marks.


Review: The Surface 3 is the first Surface I can recommend to anyone
http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/...-the-first-surface-i-can-recommend-to-anyone/

Surface 3 Gaming : Minecraft , Portal , Mass Effect 2 , Steam Streaming , Xbox One Streaming

 

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Surface 3: Third time really is the charm

http://www.neowin.net/news/surface-3-third-time-really-is-the-charm

Surface 3 review: Finally, a cheap Surface you'd actually want

http://www.engadget.com/2015/04/15/surface-3-review/


Pros

The lightest Surface yet
Extremely versatile as both a tablet and laptop
Runs all Windows software
Stylus support is a nice bonus

Cons

Keyboard is another $130
Entry model has only 2GB RAM
Not powerful enough for anything beyond basic computing

Summary

Microsoft's Surface 3 is the purest distillation of its hybrid tablet/laptop concept yet. It packs in a healthy amount of functionality for its $499 price, though be ready to pay another $130 for its keyboard.

 

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Microsoft Surface 3 Tablet First Impressions
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Microsoft-Surface-3-Tablet-First-Impressions.141116.0.html


First Impression

The overall impression after the first hours with the device was very positive. The design and the feel of the Surface 3 are similar to its predecessors. The magnesium chassis appears sophisticated, but also a bit dull. With a weight of 622 grams (without cover), the Surface 3 is pretty heavy in the hands after a while. Apple's iPad Air 2 only weighs 437 grams. The thickness of 8.7 mm is lower compared to the bigger sibling Surface Pro 3 (9 millimeters), but it is still noticeably thicker than the Apple iPad Air with just 6.1 millimeters.
We like the silent operation of the device (no fan). At the same time we could not determine any performance problems with simple office tasks and Internet applications. The display can subjectively convince with a good luminance and rich colors. The Type Cover also works pretty well and the typing experience in our first tests is a bit better than you would expect from such a solution. We review the optional input pen as well, which shows a good and precise response. The pen is similar to the model of the Surface Pro 3. The active pen with N-trig technology has a noticeable weight because of the necessary battery, but it is certainly not inconvenient.
The stand mechanism at the back now supports three positions, so the adjustability of the Surface 3 to certain situations or preferences is better than before. However, the solution still has the same issues on soft and uneven undergrounds, respectively. We also want to mention that Microsoft does not want the user to upgrade or maintain the device. If the device is defective, you will get a new device in return for your credit card information according to Microsoft, after that you have to return the defective device. If that is not the case, Microsoft will charge your credit card. This solution does at least reduce the time where you cannot use the device.





Preliminary Verdict

We already mentioned that the Microsoft Surface 3 is a convenient package, which does not reveal any serious issues at a first look. Chassis and build quality are on the good level of the predecessor, the Type Cover can actually be used for longer texts, the display convinces with a good luminance as well as accurate colors and the new 3:2 aspect ratio can be a small advantage for the productivity. The performance seems to be sufficient as well.

The Surface 3 closes the gap between a tablet and a notebook like we have never seen before. We are eager to follow the journey of the Surface products over the next couple of years.
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We will continue to run tests, benchmarks and measurements on the Surface 3 and add the results step by step in this article.

 

[Γιώργος Κυριακαράκος]

Ένα πάντως πολύ θετικό, είναι ότι συσκευές με παρόμοιο hardware από το κοντινό παρελθόν, μάλλον θα τρέχουν καλά και εκείνα τα windows 10...Γιατί αποκλείεται κάτι που κυκλοφορεί σήμερα η MS να μην ξέρουν ότι θα τρέχει απροβλημάτιστα το λειτουργικό που θα έρθει σε ελάχιστους μήνες.

 

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[alextrela]

Στην τελική ευθεία μπαίνουμε για την κυκλοφορία του tablet PC απο αρχές Μαΐου.
https://www.thurrott.com/mobile/microsoft-surface/3123/microsoft-surface-3-review

Microsoft Surface 3 review


Folks, this is the Windows tablet you’ve been looking for. With Surface 3, Microsoft has hit the right combination of performance, capability and durability, with a device that provides the best of the successful Surface Pro 3 at a more affordable price. Surface 3 is a fine choice for students of all ages, mobile professionals, or anyone else looking for the ideal balance of mobility and functionality.

Surface 3 is a delightful, versatile, and highly mobile Windows device that can effortlessly move between tablet and laptop form factors. IT pros, game players and content creators may want to step up to the more expensive Surface Pro 3. But for the rest of us, Surface 3 is an unparalleled value and a very welcome addition to the Surface family. Highly recommended.

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[alextrela]

Έσκασε και ενα ελληνικό review για την συγκεκριμένη προταςη λίγα εικοσιτετράωρα πριν την παγκόσμια κυκλοφορία του σε 27 χώρες ταυτόχρονα.

 

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Full αναλυτικο review Anandtech.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9219/the-surface-3-review/10

Μια μικρογραφια του Pro 3 με ολα τα θετικα του χωρις εκπτωσεις ουτε στην ποιοτητα κατασκευης,ουτε στο form factor,ουτε στο acpect ratio ουτε στην ποιοτητα της οθονης που παραμενει top of the top.
Αν ειχε και μια USB C θυρα συν ssd storage αντι για eMMC flash θα αγγιζε το τελειο,αλλα το πρωτο ηταν θεμα επιλογης και το δευτερο απλα οι Cherry Trail δεν υποστηριζουν SSD Storage.
Μονο αν εβαζε Core M αλλα η τιμη θα ξεφευγε κατα πολυ τοτε μιας και τιμολογιακα ειναι στα επιπεδα των Intel Core CPU και ενα αλλο μειονεκτημα οτι αναπτυσουν μεγαλυτερες θερμοκρασιες.

Final Words

In the Windows space, there is quite a bit of variety in tablets. Some are well under $100, and some go over $1000. In this space, the Surface Pro 3 has done very well, establishing a name for itself with good performance in a small form factor. Microsoft is certainly trying to emulate this success with the Surface 3, and for good reason. With the Surface Pro 3, they got a lot right, so it makes sense to push the value line in the same direction.

The Surface 3 is superior to its predecessors in many ways. Where they were good, it is better. It keeps the wonderful magnesium chassis, but stretches it into a 3:2 aspect ratio. This alone is almost worth the price of admission, but it is just one of many changes made. I would argue that it is one of the most important changes to this tablet, and it makes it a better tablet and a better laptop. The kickstand has always been a staple of the Surface lineup, and adding the one additional step really helps make it even more usable in more scenarios. I wish it opened just a bit wider like the Pro model does, but that is a small gripe.

The move to x86 with the Atom x7-8700 was long needed. No longer is Surface and Surface Pro not able to run the same applications. Windows RT was always going to be a tough sell, but even more so since the Windows Store did not take off as quick as would have been necessary for RT to have a future. Once Intel shipped Bay Trail though, the writing was on the wall for Windows RT, since there was little reason to sacrifice the backwards compatibility of x86. The move to Cherry Trail in this model has provided a speed boost as well, and for light workloads it is more than sufficient. Plus, you could run anything that a Surface Pro could run, even if it will take a bit longer. That is an option that just did not exist before with the Surface line.

That being said, the SoC performance is where the price point dictates - around the good ARM products but poorer compared to Core. This is especially true when compared to the Surface Pro 3, but it is worth noting the SoC power draw between the two (14W vs 2W). That being said, the performance of the eMMC is a major drawback to how this device feels, especially in day to day use. Most of the time it isn't noticable, but when there is a bottleneck most of the time it was due to disk accesses.

From a long term usability standpoint, getting rid of the 32 GB model and having Surface 3 start with 64 GB is a big boost. 32 GB is a tough sell when you have the larger install footprint of Windows, as well as a recovery partition. Add in some Windows Updates, and a 32 GB model is going to be near capacity right away, and that really diminishes eMMC’s performance. Now the base model starts at 64 GB, and for just $100 more, you can opt for the 128 GB model which also has 4 GB of RAM. I personally think that would be $100 well spent, and if I was buying, that would be the model I would go for.

The accessories are also first rate. The keyboard is really quite good, and although the trackpad is small, it does work well when needed. It is a bit on the pricey side but it really does complete the Surface 3 and gives you the laptop capabilities in a nice cover. When I was using it as a tablet, I almost always removed the keyboard though, so it is certainly not a must have, but a really should have. Adding the pen to the lineup for this round was also a great move. Being able to use the Surface 3 for quick notes came in very handy, and I found the pen to be quite easy to glide over the screen, and accuracy was top notch. Of the accessories, the dock is likely not something the average consumer needs, but it really is a nice dock for storage and charging. At $199 though, it is too much for the average person to go for. For businesses though, it should come in very handy and should help the Surface 3 gain some traction there. It is not quite as good as the Surface Pro’s dock though, since this model lacks the proprietary docking port of the Surface Pro 3.

There is a lot to like about the Surface 3, but not everything is perfect. Battery life, especially when compared to other tablets, is well below average. This is despite having a display with a pixel density less than a lot of the competition, which means the Surface 3 should have an advantage in backlight power consumption. Display power draw is a huge concern, and perhaps the Panasonic one in the Surface 3 is not quite as efficient as others, especially Sharp’s IGZO lineup. The overall battery life is still decent though, and the much improved standby time is a big boon. However the charge rate is really a problem on this tablet, and it would have been excellent to see this new device embrace USB Type-C as the charging connector. Since it already has a full sized USB 3.0 port, there would be very little downside to moving to the new connector for charging, and it would allow for a reversible insertion as well.

I think though that the battery life is really the only real concern for the Surface 3. In the Windows space, there is no other tablet quite like this one, except maybe the Surface Pro 3, but that device is bigger, and heavier, and less useful as a tablet. It does have far more performance available, but for far more money up front.

Up to this point, I have not discussed the ability to use Surface 3 in your lap at all, and for good reason. For people out in the world that need to be able to use a device in their lap, then please just buy a notebook computer. Almost none of the 2-in-1 devices that I have tested have been especially good at that task, even those with true attachable keyboards. Only the devices like the Yoga 3 Pro which keep the processor in the base have the correct balance for this task. The Surface 3 can work in a pinch, but it is much better suited to be used on a desk with the keyboard attached if you need to use it as a notebook.

Pricing is the final piece of the puzzle. At $499, you get a decent spec with 2 GB of memory and 64 GB of storage. The $599 model bumps that to 4 GB of memory and 128 GB of storage. It is not inexpensive. Add in the keyboard for another $130 and the Surface 3 is getting close to the pricing of the ASUS UX305, which has a lot more performance available. The pen is another $50 on top. The base price of the Surface 3 is, I think, competitive, but adding in the accessories to really make it what it is advertised as ramps the price up in a hurry.

So with those caveats aside, we can finally get to the conclusion that you have likely guessed already. The Surface 3 is a great device. The build quality is really at the top level of any OEM out there. The form factor is finally the right one after two previous generations that got it slightly wrong. The weight is lighter than any previous Surface, and just as balanced. Performance of the x7 Atom CPU is great for light tasks, and if you need more than light tasks then this is not the device for you. As a tablet, it is great to use in either orientation, with the portrait mode being especially good now for browsing the web. The kickstand is improved, they keyboard is improved, the base tier steps up to 64 GB of storage, making it actually useful without immediately adding micro SD to the mix.

With Windows 10 right around the corner, the Surface 3 feels like Microsoft’s best attempt yet at creating a great tablet computer. If you in the market and you want a Windows 8.1 tablet, it would be worth your time to check out the Surface 3.