Preview Special: JVC DLA-HD100

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It is still no year ago, JVC with the DLA-HD1 the digital projection world with a native contrast of 15000:1, revolutionized there. Is called native: "without cheat and to double soil" like adaptive screens or lamp regulations. Until today no competition model could achieve this high native contrast, the HD1 is a class for itself in this regard, which can take up it even with the good old tube technology.

Despite this technique projection/lead engineers did not rest themselves on their Lorbeeren and to bring in the next month the DLA-HD100 on the market, the large brother of the HD1. The HD100 is an advancement on the basis of the HD1, which was improved in various details. And it sets the measuring pole now still more highly: With a contrast of 30,000:1 nativ(!!) doubles JVC again the schwarzwert and thus the picture plasticity. This takes place WITHOUT employment of any adaptive screens, (present false alarms concerning an adaptive screen by badly informed Web publications are not correct!)

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Optically the HD100 differs only by its completely black front, which makes the adjustment on home cinema professionals clear. The DLA-HD100 replaces the DLA-HD1 by the way not, but supplements the product range upward. The pleasant side effect: The HD1 was lowered in the price and is at present with a UVP of €5500. - an absolute price/achievement crusher. Like that the HD1 will be also opposite the HD100 the largest competitor, because the new costs with € 8500. - clearly more. What receives the buyer for it more? In this Preview we present the innovations of the HD100 in detail and combine this with our first results of measurement, because we already were in the lucky situation to spend little time with pilot lot equipment....


Here we want to stress expressly that all results published here refer to a pilot lot model and therefore only as provisional reference points to be regarded are! A detailed test of the final standard set will follow for official introduction on the market!


1. More comfort in the list

In the equipment with the HD100 more importance is attached on luxury: With it the zoom shot and focus are now electrically adjustable by remote maintenance. Outwardly one recognizes the electrical optics only by the absence of a zoomhebels.


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The optics is now fully motorized
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At the optical characteristics of the glasses from the house Fujinon otherwise nothing did. The projection distances remained accordingly alike. Rework need gave it in addition, not, because the zoom shot range is suitable for almost any living room.

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JVC DLA-HD100
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Also the Lens SHIFT, unfortunately, remained absolutely unchanged because it must still be adjusted by hand directly at the equipment. According to our opinion it is inkonsequent to electrify zoom shot and focus and ignore the Lensshift.

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The Lensshift is still large nevertheless uncommonly and lends to the projector additional flexibility in the list. There are probably only few areas, where the HD100 cannot be integrated meaningfully.

Apropos list: In mode are at present anamorphe optics, which distort the picture of the projector optically from 16:9 on 21:9. A condition for the employment of such an optics is an electronic Anamorph scaling of the Cinemascope cinemascope-Filmmaterials of DVD, HP-DVD, Blu ray etc. on 16:9, so that it can become afterwards by the optics "tossed". Such a scaling electronics should be integrated in the HD100, however not yet with our pilot lot equipment, so that we could not test this new feature yet.




2. More future surely: HDMI 1.3a for new video standards

The quality of home cinema becomes ever better. After the digitization by DVD and now the higher FullHD dissolution by Blu ray and HP-DVD can we about the image definition on the canvas no more weight, nevertheless already do not lie themselves them over that of most public cinemas.

But one was so far culpably neglected with the goal of the perfect cinema reproduction: The color representation! The similar Zelluloid original has a substantially larger color area, than our outdated video standard. In other words: In the cinema we come into the benefit of many more intensive colors than at home with our video standard, for which a strong green, blue or a red a foreign word are. Much too long one held to favour of the compatibility to the outdated tube technology to the reduced colors. Because also the present HDTV standard limits the color splendour opposite the cinema more than strongly. From a akkuraten color reproduction of the cinema at present yet the speech cannot be.

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The two HDMI entrances of the HD100 correspond
the 1.3-Standard

It lasted long, but slowly the film producers recognize that in things color reproduction pent-up demand exists. Finally digital projection techniques already permit such as LCOS or LCD for quite some time the possibility of coming the chromatic spectrum of the cinema close. When solution of the problem offers itself simply a new video standard, a substantially larger, cinema-more similar color area for mast ring for reason puts and with a higher bit depth combines this. Thus we receive stronger colors and still more exact farbuebergaenge, like in the cinema. Disturbing artifacts are at the same time continued to reduce.

However more data extent means more depth of shade, and more data require a faster transmission. The new HDMI 1.3a standard supports a faster data communication and thus more signal depth. The combination of "Deep Color" and xvYCC Farbraum, both new standards, make in the theory one almost perfect for cinema reproduction possible also in things colors. Only in the theory? The HD100 is to all new standards compatibly and in such a way actually stands to the new color pleasure nothing in the way. But at present any kind of the software is missing, also no films for the future are at present announced after the new standards. It is not well-known even, in which films will be to rough period us in serious numbers of items at the disposal. The first HDMI1.3 compatible Blu ray Player is however on the market and remains in such a way hope that the appropriate software will follow sometime. Finally the film companies want to sell all films to us again and again in new versions. After PAL and hp xvYCC to certainly follow, with the HD100 is anyhow prepared for all coming one.


Also during PC signal processing, the DLA-HD100 was by the way improved finished now also usual dissolutions of PC such as SXGA, xga, svga and VGA via HDMI (a similar passing on is not possible still).




3. Improved picture parameter

Cause for the criticism gave it with the spartanischen picture parameters of the HD1. For many home cinema enthusiasts it offers too few influence possibilities on the brightness distribution (gamma) and the color temperature (RGB). This criticism one took with JVC obviously seriously and to the HD100 a aufwaendiges gamma management spendiert.

In the first step the user can select the general gamma rise. In the picture menu understandably directly the values are indicated, of "1.8" to over "2.5" for the expert. Our test of the final standard set will show whether the indicated values appear in such a way then also in practice on the canvas.

If one selected the desired gamma curve (for films usually 2.2), then one can "tunen" with the help of the extensive gamma manager the brightness distribution later.

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OSD Gammamanager of the HD100
 

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In over ten points of attack one can readjust now parts of the gamma curve. Like that it is simply possible by remote maintenance, e.g. darken details to emphasize and so the Durchzeichnung further to increase. Also a possible bloomings can be corrected easily. At this feature all advanced home cinema fans have fun.

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Perfected gamma curves like above are with the HD100 no more problem...

The gamma rise can be adjusted thereby not only for gray tones, but also for each basic colour (R,G and B) separately. Like that also a white alignment perfected in all brightness is possible on the D65-Norm.

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Above: Already ex factory the HD100 offers an exact white alignment

Down: The white alignment can be perfected by detailed parameters

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With the help of these extensive adjustment possibilities a deficiency of the HD1 is eliminated. After correction the perfected image representation can be stored, so that the attitudes are not lost.




4. Increased one, even color area

Already the HD1 pursued the goal of being able to simulate with a particularly large color area strong colors of the cinema better. By a special internal color filtering this also succeeded with the HD1. Critic disturbed it however that the color area did not appear evenly extended in relation to the video standard, so that certain color blendings in their accuracy suffered.

With the HD100 one revised the color representation on optical level: It offers again a clearly increased color area, but it was evenly expanded than with the DLA-HD1:

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Above: the new color area of the DLA-HD100

At the bottom left hand corner: The color area of a xenon projector like the SonyVW100 is not larger
Down right: The small brother HD1 shows a less balanced color area

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As the comparison shows above, even a Sony VPL-VW100 in things color area cannot keep up with the HD100 any longer, and which although the Sony expensive and aufwaendige xenon technology uses. JVC reached better results with the substantially more favorable UHP lamp, which is above all light-more stable and for a bright picture provides so more on a long-term basis.


Apropos picture brightness, the enlargement of the color area becomes by a light loss of approx.. 15% buy, more in addition in the next chapter. Besides without a resuming color management (CMS) does, so that it was not possible at least with our pilot lot equipment, the color area on the video standard to trims. With conventional pictorial material the HD100 already tends therefore, like its predecessor HD1, to a very strong color representation, which can be affected only with the help of "saturation"Reglers. Here there are definitely still Verbesserungspotenzial in things adjustment possibilities, wait we the final series off...




5. Native contrast of 30,000:1 (!)

As already described the HD100 gives better influence possibilities on the picture plasticity by a aufwaendiges and precise gamma management. The "dynamic area" is determined however by the native contrast relationship of the projector. And here JVC sets a further milestone: The contrast opposite the HD1 again doubled on 30,000:1!

Such high values let fast the suspicion of the "Marketinghype" arise, let us not speak in practice to become such values not under adherence to the video standards reached. Therefore we examined the native contrast and were naturally surprised: The HD100 test equipment actually reached a contrast of 30900:1 on adherence to the D65-Farbnorm! This means that JVC indicates again honestly the realistic efficiency of the Beamers. Here we praise again this honesty and request competitors to follow this example. Also without objective test magazines the possibility is only thus given to the user to compare technical data seriously.


Measured values HD100 - PreProduction

Zoom shot Color mode Lamp mode Light/lumen Contrast

Max one Means (D65) High 610 24000:1
Max one Means (D65) Normally 510 24000:1

Mid Means (D65) High 530 26500:1
Mid Means (D65) Normally 450 26500:1

Min Means (D65) High 430 31000:1
Min Means (D65) Normally 350 31000:1


As one can infer from the table above, JVC is very honest also concerning the brightness data. By the new tuning of the color filtering the projector under adherence to the D65-Norm 600Lumen (maximally 700 lumens) reaches. In combination with the increased contrast this means that the schwarzwert was doubled opposite the HD1 more than. In other words: The darkest black is to be differentiated with the HD100 less than half as brightly as with the HD1 and thus hardly still from "genuine" black to.


In the direct comparison to the DLA-HD1 one sees this improvement particularly in dark space scenes à la to "star Wars" or "space cowboy". Here space is still blacker and the contrast therefore still more concise than with the HD1, and as many readers know, the HD1 is already ansich a class for itself.




6. Result

Our first Preview shows: All improvements, which JVC promises officially with the HD100, are also actually kept by the projector. The remaining question is: How does the HD100 strike itself now in regard to its small brother, is justified surcharge?

The probably aufwaendigsten improvements concern the color area and the native contrast. It would have been for JVC an easy, with the help of an adaptive screen the contrast of a new Beamers into the range with six digits to "boosten", yet one decided for a aufwaendigeren and more honest way: By selected D-ILA to panels and polarisation filters succeeded it to double the actually optically attainable native contrast of the projector. This contrast increase takes place alone via the schwarzwert, so that black is still darker with the HD100 than with the HD1. How much more darkly? Like, if one already lies within high ranges, the differences are as often not as day and night. Everyone, which its own calls or it under optimal conditions to experience was allowed the HD1, will confirm that the HD1 already shows a outstanding schwarzwert, which does not lighten most film scenes no more disturbing. Black is simply dark with the HD1. And with the HD100? There black is simply still darker than darkly, evenly nearly black. As when High ending last perfection is always reached by always aufwaendigere technical conversions.

Same applies to the color area, for JVC on a new, more precise optical filtering also here set, in order to realize an increased color area in view to coming video standards. The electronic Nachkorrektur, which entails inevitably a contrast loss, was gone around to a large extent thereby. A good beginning, yet we would have wished ourselves for the HD100 a Colormanagement system, how it is actually usual in this preisklasse. On gamma and RGB- level was introduced however for it an exemplary and efficient system, which permits absolute perfection in things to brightness distribution and color temperature.

In the equipment above all the HDMI1.3 compatibility is praising to be mentioned, those the projector, that with a purchase price of approx.. €8500. - long time in the use to be is, on years makes. With him one can only hope that the film companies repair the deficiency of the reduced color area with present hp publications as fast as possible. Because the HD100 is with its large color area, the realizable color gradations and the uniquely high contrast to an image representation able, which their time ahead is.

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For whom now surcharge is worthwhile itself opposite the HD1, which is the present good deal in the home cinema segment and represents at the same time the largest competition?
The HD100 is worthwhile itself to remunerate for everyone, which at present wishes the technical maximally feasible in things projection -ohne to compromise and that is ready, a so aufwaendige Kompromisslosigkeit accordingly... it is worthwhile oneself for genuine "High Ender"...



20 October, 2007
Corner-hard Schmitt




7. Specifications: DLA-HD100 D-ILA Home theatre front Projector


- display DEVICE: Full hp D-ILA DEVICE

- panel size: 0,7 inch of x 3 (16:9)

- resolution: 1.920 x 1.080 of pixel

- Lens: X2 motorized zoom shot/focus lens, f=21.3-42.6mm, F=3.2-4.3

- Lens SHIFT function: ±80% vertically and ±34% horizontal

- screen Size: 60 tons of 200 inches

- Light SOURCE lamp: 200-watt ultra high pressure mercury lamp

- Brightness: 600 of lumen

- Contrast ratio: Native 30,000:1


Video input terminal

- HDMI: x 2 (1,3)

- Component: x 1 (3RCA), CAN thus used as A RGB terminal

- S video terminal: (mini DIN4 pin) x 1

- Composite: x 1 (1RCA terminal)

- control terminal: RS-232C (D-sub 9 pin)


- video: 480i/p, 576i/p, 720p60/50, 1080i60/50, 1080p60/50/24, NTSC/NTSC4.43/PAL/PAL-M/PAL-N/SECAInput of signal M

- PC: SXGA, xga, svga, vga (via HDMI)

- Noise level: 24 railways (normal mode)

- power Consumption: 280W (Standby 2.7W)

- dimension (W x H x D): 455 x 172,5 x 418.5mm (without extruding)

- Weight: 11,6 kg

* PC input is via HDMI digitally inputs only. Similar to PC input is emergency possible.
 

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Περαν της πλακας, αυτο που διαπιστωνουμε απο τα πρωτα τεστ ειναι οτι ο νεος JVC θα εχει ακομα πιο διευρυμενο color space (δειτε το εξωτερικο τριγωνο πιο κατω) κατι το οποιο (σε συνδιασμο με την απουσια CMS) θα δωσει ακομα πιο υπερκορεσμενα χρωματα και θα ενοχλησει οσους επιθυμουν να βλεπουν χρωμα συμφωνα με το προτυπο Rec 709 (το οποιο ειναι το εσωτερικο τριγωνο):

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Επισης, πιθανολογω οτι το βελτιωμενο On/off contrast (31.000 προς 1 παρακαλω σε D65!!! -διπλασιο του HD1!!) θα εχει μεγαλυτερη σημασια σε χωρους απολυτου σκοτους οπως το panic room του Τασου.
Τελος, σημαντικοτατο νεο ειναι η δυνατοτητα ρυθμισης καμπυλης gamma, κατι πολυ χρησιμο σε περιπτωση μου με τον καιρο αλλαξει η συμπεριφορα του gamma του προβολεα...
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Τελος, σημαντικοτατο νεο ειναι η δυνατοτητα ρυθμισης καμπυλης gamma, κατι πολυ χρησιμο σε περιπτωση μου με τον καιρο αλλαξει η συμπεριφορα του gamma του προβολεα...


Τακη , το εχεις συναντησει ποτε αυτο ? Να αλλαζει η συμπεριφορα του γαμμα του μηχανηματος ?
 

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Τακη , το εχεις συναντησει ποτε αυτο ? Να αλλαζει η συμπεριφορα του γαμμα του μηχανηματος ?

Ναι, στον δικο μου προβολεα, οπου οταν τον μετρησε προσφατα ο Μανωλης διαπιστωσε οτι το gamma του ειχε γινει πιο "φωτεινο" μετα την παροδο 200 ωρων.
Αν ειχα τα ρυθμιστικα του νεου HD100 το προβλημα θα λυνοταν πολυ ευκολα. Τωρα, θα πρεπει να παιξουμε απο το HTPC..
Ισως γι αυτο οι μηχανικοι της JVC προσθεσαν την δυνατοτητα gamma correction στον νεο JVC...
 

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Ναι, στον δικο μου προβολεα, οπου οταν τον μετρησε προσφατα ο Μανωλης διαπιστωσε οτι το gamma του ειχε γινει πιο "φωτεινο" μετα την παροδο 200 ωρων.
Αν ειχα τα ρυθμιστικα του νεου HD100 το προβλημα θα λυνοταν πολυ ευκολα. Τωρα, θα πρεπει να παιξουμε απο το HTPC..
Ισως γι αυτο οι μηχανικοι της JVC προσθεσαν την δυνατοτητα gamma correction στον νεο JVC...


Ποιο φωτεινο ? Τι κουφο ειναι αυτο ?

Τακη σε ολη την καμπυλη η σε καποια σημεια μονο ?
 

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Χρηστο, δεν θυμαμαι.. Καλυτερα να ρωτησεις τον Μανωλη..
Απλα επειδη στα σκοτεινα δεν βλεπω καποια αλλαγη, πιθανολογω οτι "φωτιζει" απο την μεση της καμπυλης και πανω..
Παντως μην φανταστεις καμια δραματικη αλλαγη.Χρειαστηκε να το μετρησουμε για να διαπιστωσουμε οτι κατι αλλαξε.Με το ματι δεν ειναι ευκολα αντιληπτο..
 

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Χρηστο, δεν θυμαμαι.. Καλυτερα να ρωτησεις τον Μανωλη..
Απλα επειδη στα σκοτεινα δεν βλεπω καποια αλλαγη, πιθανολογω οτι "φωτιζει" απο την μεση της καμπυλης και πανω..
Παντως μην φανταστεις καμια δραματικη αλλαγη.Χρειαστηκε να το μετρησουμε για να διαπιστωσουμε οτι κατι αλλαξε.Με το ματι δεν ειναι ευκολα αντιληπτο..

Μαλιστα. Θενκς.

Αν μπορεσει ο Μανωλης να βαλει τα διαγραμματα σου στην πρωτη μετρηση και σε αυτη που κανατε τωρα ισως βοηθουσε να καταλαβουμε τι γινεται !


Υποθετω οτι δεν θυμασαι αν αλλαξε και η θερμοκρασια ?
 
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Μαλιστα. Θενκς.

Αν μπορεσει ο Μανωλης να βαλει τα διαγραμματα σου στην πρωτη μετρηση και σε αυτη που κανατε τωρα ισως βοηθουσε να καταλαβουμε τι γινεται !


Υποθετω οτι δεν θυμασαι αν αλλαξε και η θερμοκρασια ?

θα το κάνω Χρηστο..
 
17 June 2006
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Μαλιστα. Θενκς.

Αν μπορεσει ο Μανωλης να βαλει τα διαγραμματα σου στην πρωτη μετρηση και σε αυτη που κανατε τωρα ισως βοηθουσε να καταλαβουμε τι γινεται !


Υποθετω οτι δεν θυμασαι αν αλλαξε και η θερμοκρασια ?

Σχεδόν πάντα αλλάζει η θερμοκρασία με την πάροδο του χρόνου λόγω αλλαγής της φασματικής συμπεριφοράς της λάμπας άρα δεν έχει να κάνει μόνο με τον ντίλα.