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<blockquote data-quote="dimergr" data-source="post: 1058410079" data-attributes="member: 45820"><p>Ως κατοχος της Q70r 65'' εδω και 1 μηνα δεν εχω δει blooming ουτε σε netflix ουτε σε appleTV ουτε σε 4κ hdr απο στικακι πουθενα. Ειχα κι εγω την ανησυχια μου με αυτα που διαβαζα πριν την παρω, αλλα αυτη την στιγμη μπορω να επιβεβαιωσω πως προβλημα δεν υφισταται. Σε συγρκιση με την sonyXG950 ειναι αισθητα πιο φθηνη και δεν εχει το θεμα στο HDR (θαμπωμα στα μαυρα πλαισια μιας ταινιας) που εμφανιζει η sony.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>QE55/65/75/82Q70RA:VA (Vertical Alignment) panel RGB,</p><p>Direct LED (F.A.L.D._50 zones-55") LCD,</p><p>WCG (aka quantum dot enhancement film,QLED),</p><p>100/120Ηz+αναβόσβησμα του οπίσθιου φωτισμού,</p><p>HDR10,HDR10+,HLG,</p><p>tizen 4.5,</p><p> DVB T2 HD (HEVC/H.265)x2,DVB S2x2</p><p></p><p>QE49Q70RA :VA panel-RGB vertical stripe,</p><p> F.A.L.D. Direct LED LCD ,</p><p><strong>50/60Hz</strong> + αναβόσβησμα του οπίσθιου φωτισμού,</p><p>WCG (aka Quantum Dot_QDEF),</p><p>HDR10,HDR10+,HLG</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><em>Η QE Q70R του 2019 αντικαταστάθηκε το 2020 από την QE Q80TA,η QE Q70TA του 2020 είναι Edge LED LCD και όχι FALD.</em></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Made in Hungary</p><p></p><p><em>....support for older Divx and xVid formats was removed from the media player. The Samsung does not play DTS soundtracks either....</em></p><p><em></em></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: #00ff00">Συνδεσιμότητα:</span></strong></p><p></p><p>HDMI IN x4 (η μια ARC)</p><p>USB (2.0) x2</p><p>PVR Ready</p><p>Είσοδος Composite (AV) : όχι</p><p>Είσοδος Component (Y/Pb/Pr) : όχι</p><p>Optical out x1</p><p>Έξοδος ήχου (Mini Jack) :όχι</p><p>Bluetooth :A2DP</p><p>Ethernet (LAN) : Ναι</p><p>Remote TM1950C</p><p>PiP/Twin Tuner</p><p></p><p></p><p>65"</p><p><img src="https://dyw7ncnq1en5l.cloudfront.net/optim/test/14/142501/a73264d0-samsung-qe65q70r-le-televiseur-de-milieu-de-gamme-tant-attendu__w800.webp" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>--------------------------------------------</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: #FF8C00">Reviews -test :</span></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>65"...[flatpanelshd.com]...Samsung QE65Q70RA review,calibration...<a href="https://avclub.gr/forum/showthread.php/166352-Samsung-TV-Line-up-2019?p=1058343296&viewfull=1#post1058343296" target="_blank">https://avclub.gr/forum/showthread.php/166352-Samsung-TV-Line-up-2019?p=1058343296&viewfull=1#post1058343296</a></p><p></p><p><strong>suggested calibration settings:</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>Picture mode: Movie</p><p>Expert</p><p>Backlight: 15_ένταση του οπίσθιου φωτισμού-φωτεινότητα</p><p>Brightness: 0 </p><p>Contrast: 45 </p><p>Color: 25</p><p>Sharpness: 0</p><p>Tone (G/R): 0</p><p>Copy picture settings: All sources</p><p>Digital clean view: Off</p><p>Auto Motion Plus: Off / Manual (5/0)</p><p>HDMI UHD Color: On for HDR sources</p><p>Color temp: Warm2</p><p>Gamma: 2.2</p><p>Color space: Auto</p><p></p><p></p><p>Note: We include calibration settings only for SDR, not HDR. For our calibration we have deactivated the ambient light sensor that automatically adjusts the backlight setting according to your environment. You may prefer to have it enabled. </p><p></p><p>65"...[lesnumeriques.com]...Samsung QE65Q70RA test...<a href="https://avclub.gr/forum/showthread.php/166352-Samsung-TV-Line-up-2019?p=1058402119&viewfull=1#post1058402119" target="_blank">https://avclub.gr/forum/showthread.php/166352-Samsung-TV-Line-up-2019?p=1058402119&viewfull=1#post1058402119</a></p><p></p><p>65"...[ixbt.com]...Comparison LG 65C9 vs Samsung QE65Q70RAUXRU vs Xiaomi L65M5-5S vs Harper 65U750TS...<a href="https://www.ixbt.com/tv/65-inch-tv-comparison.html" target="_blank">https://www.ixbt.com/tv/65-inch-tv-comparison.html</a></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>55"...[hdtvtest.co.uk]...Samsung QE55Q70RA review...<a href="https://avclub.gr/forum/showthread.php/166352-Samsung-TV-Line-up-2019?p=1058373425&viewfull=1#post1058373425" target="_blank">https://avclub.gr/forum/showthread.php/166352-Samsung-TV-Line-up-2019?p=1058373425&viewfull=1#post1058373425</a></p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqvICH0kmFc" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqvICH0kmFc</a></p><p></p><p>55"...[rtings.com]...Samsung QN55Q70RA review...<a href="https://avclub.gr/forum/showthread.php/166352-Samsung-TV-Line-up-2019?p=1058327901&viewfull=1#post1058327901" target="_blank">https://avclub.gr/forum/showthread.php/166352-Samsung-TV-Line-up-2019?p=1058327901&viewfull=1#post1058327901</a></p><p></p><p>55"...[avforums.com]...Samsung QE55Q70RA review...<a href="https://avclub.gr/forum/showthread.php/166352-Samsung-TV-Line-up-2019?p=1058345681&viewfull=1#post1058345681" target="_blank">https://avclub.gr/forum/showthread.php/166352-Samsung-TV-Line-up-2019?p=1058345681&viewfull=1#post1058345681</a></p><p></p><p>55"...[hdtvpolska.com]...Samsung QE55Q70RA review...<a href="https://avclub.gr/forum/showthread.php/166352-Samsung-TV-Line-up-2019?p=1058358793&viewfull=1#post1058358793" target="_blank">https://avclub.gr/forum/showthread.php/166352-Samsung-TV-Line-up-2019?p=1058358793&viewfull=1#post1058358793</a></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>55"...[geex.x-kom.pl]...Samsung QE55Q70RA review...<a href="https://geex.x-kom.pl/recenzje/samsung-55q70r-test-i-recenzja-zaawansowanego-telewizora-4k-hdr/" target="_blank">https://geex.x-kom.pl/recenzje/samsung-55q70r-test-i-recenzja-zaawansowanego-telewizora-4k-hdr/</a></p><p></p><p>μετάφραση google <a href="https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fgeex.x-kom.pl%2Frecenzje%2Fsamsung-55q70r-test-i-recenzja-zaawansowanego-telewizora-4k-hdr%2F" target="_blank">pl to en</a></p><p></p><p>...<em>we should note that we tested <strong>version 2 of this model (Version No. 2)</strong>. This version of the TV uses a VA LCD matrix, most likely from AUO. </em></p><p><em></em>As a rule, VA matrices provide higher contrast than IPS LCD matrices, but at the cost of worse color reproduction when viewed at an angle...</p><p></p><p>...Although the matrix itself has a high native contrast, Samsung engineers have decided to "increase" the contrast by additional methods. Three techniques were used:</p><p></p><p>local dimming (local blanking of the LEDs),</p><p>frame dimming (darkening the entire frame),</p><p>manipulation of the brightness curve....</p><p></p><p>...the backlight control algorithms are slightly better refined than last year (2018). Indeed, their operation is very interesting, because a lot of emphasis was put on preventing the formation of any halos or light envelopes around bright objects. To this end, even if a bright object (e.g. a lamp) is in the center of the screen, the control algorithm "lights" the entire horizontal row of zones behind the screen, not just one or two zones directly below the object. In this way, blooming halo was avoided), because there is no border between the stronger and less highlighted area.</p><p></p><p>The operation of the algorithm is so unusual that it can sometimes resemble the work of ... edge lighting (with LEDs located along the vertical edges of the screen).</p><p></p><p>...The other way to "improve black" is running in the background, non- switchable global dimming and brightening the entire picture frame (so-called frame dimming ). On the one hand, especially when compared to QLED AD 2018 TVs, it works more subtly, but compared to the 55Q60R model it works more aggressively. This can be seen very clearly from the scene from the movie ( Revenant , 2015), when after the scene with sparks rising from a burning bonfire the camera shows the face of Hawk (son of the main character) resting under the tree.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://geex.x-kom.pl/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/frame-dimming-samsung-55q70rw.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>...With the naked eye, not only the sudden decrease in brightness of the whole frame was noticeable, but also the loss of detail visibility in the shadows. Interestingly, when subtitles appeared on the screen, the reverse phenomenon occurred ... this time I will illustrate the scene from the movie Solo (2018)...</p><p></p><p><img src="https://geex.x-kom.pl/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/scena-z-filmu-solo-na-ekranie-samsunga-55q70rw.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>In general, the operation of the dimmable diode has its advantages and disadvantages. The advantage is great black, which gives the impression of almost that of OLEDs. On the other hand, this tar black absorbs details like a sponge with water. Here is an example:</p><p></p><p><img src="https://geex.x-kom.pl/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/samsung-55q70rw-czern-ekranu.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p><img src="https://geex.x-kom.pl/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/obraz-na-ekranie-samsunga-55q70rw-1.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>...Can anything be done about it? Please note that <strong>we are talking about the factory settings of the movie mode</strong> . You can use the contrast enhancer function low. and / or move the gamma slider to the right. In addition, professional calibration could help the most, although, in my opinion, it will not be completely effective, because the algorithms for blanking and manipulation of the brightness curve are unfortunately beyond the control of the calibrator, and the local dimming system cannot, traditionally for Samsung TVs, be completely turned off....</p><p></p><p><img src="https://geex.x-kom.pl/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/matryca-Samsnga-55Q70Rw2.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p><img src="http://www.tvtest.pl/wp-content/uploads/Samsung-55Q70R-iw1.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>via [<a href="http://www.tvtest.pl/samsung-55q70r-test/" target="_blank">tvtest.pl</a>]</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>49"...[homecinemamagazine.nl]...Samsung QE49Q70RA review,sample,calibration...<a href="https://avclub.gr/forum/showthread.php/166352-Samsung-TV-Line-up-2019?p=1058350866&viewfull=1#post1058350866" target="_blank">https://avclub.gr/forum/showthread.php/166352-Samsung-TV-Line-up-2019?p=1058350866&viewfull=1#post1058350866</a></p><p></p><p>----------------------------------</p><p></p><p><strong>Comparison:</strong></p><p></p><p>The Samsung QN Q60RA vs QN Q70RA - What's The Difference?...<a href="https://avclub.gr/forum/showthread.php/166352-Samsung-TV-Line-up-2019?p=1058307620&viewfull=1#post1058307620" target="_blank">https://avclub.gr/forum/showthread.php/166352-Samsung-TV-Line-up-2019?p=1058307620&viewfull=1#post1058307620</a></p><p></p><p>The Samsung QN Q70RA vs QN Q80RA - What's The Difference?...<a href="https://avclub.gr/forum/showthread.php/166352-Samsung-TV-Line-up-2019?p=1058307620&viewfull=1#post1058307620" target="_blank">https://avclub.gr/forum/showthread.php/166352-Samsung-TV-Line-up-2019?p=1058307620&viewfull=1#post1058307620</a></p><p></p><p></p><p>-------------------------------------</p><p></p><p><strong>Αρχικές τιμές στην ελληνική αγορά</strong>: QE Q70R...<a href="https://avclub.gr/forum/showthread.php/166352-Samsung-TV-Line-up-2019?p=1058301694&viewfull=1#post1058301694" target="_blank">https://avclub.gr/forum/showthread.php/166352-Samsung-TV-Line-up-2019?p=1058301694&viewfull=1#post1058301694</a></p><p></p><p>QE82Q70RA : 4.999 </p><p>QE75Q70RA : 3.899 </p><p>QE65Q70RA : 2.299 </p><p>QE55Q70RA : 1.799 </p><p>QE49Q70RA : 1.599</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dimergr, post: 1058410079, member: 45820"] Ως κατοχος της Q70r 65'' εδω και 1 μηνα δεν εχω δει blooming ουτε σε netflix ουτε σε appleTV ουτε σε 4κ hdr απο στικακι πουθενα. Ειχα κι εγω την ανησυχια μου με αυτα που διαβαζα πριν την παρω, αλλα αυτη την στιγμη μπορω να επιβεβαιωσω πως προβλημα δεν υφισταται. Σε συγρκιση με την sonyXG950 ειναι αισθητα πιο φθηνη και δεν εχει το θεμα στο HDR (θαμπωμα στα μαυρα πλαισια μιας ταινιας) που εμφανιζει η sony. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QE55/65/75/82Q70RA:VA (Vertical Alignment) panel RGB, Direct LED (F.A.L.D._50 zones-55") LCD, WCG (aka quantum dot enhancement film,QLED), 100/120Ηz+αναβόσβησμα του οπίσθιου φωτισμού, HDR10,HDR10+,HLG, tizen 4.5, DVB T2 HD (HEVC/H.265)x2,DVB S2x2 QE49Q70RA :VA panel-RGB vertical stripe, F.A.L.D. Direct LED LCD , [B]50/60Hz[/B] + αναβόσβησμα του οπίσθιου φωτισμού, WCG (aka Quantum Dot_QDEF), HDR10,HDR10+,HLG [I]Η QE Q70R του 2019 αντικαταστάθηκε το 2020 από την QE Q80TA,η QE Q70TA του 2020 είναι Edge LED LCD και όχι FALD.[/I] Made in Hungary [I]....support for older Divx and xVid formats was removed from the media player. The Samsung does not play DTS soundtracks either.... [/I] [B][COLOR=#00ff00]Συνδεσιμότητα:[/COLOR][/B] HDMI IN x4 (η μια ARC) USB (2.0) x2 PVR Ready Είσοδος Composite (AV) : όχι Είσοδος Component (Y/Pb/Pr) : όχι Optical out x1 Έξοδος ήχου (Mini Jack) :όχι Bluetooth :A2DP Ethernet (LAN) : Ναι Remote TM1950C PiP/Twin Tuner 65" [IMG]https://dyw7ncnq1en5l.cloudfront.net/optim/test/14/142501/a73264d0-samsung-qe65q70r-le-televiseur-de-milieu-de-gamme-tant-attendu__w800.webp[/IMG] -------------------------------------------- [B][COLOR=#FF8C00]Reviews -test :[/COLOR][/B] 65"...[flatpanelshd.com]...Samsung QE65Q70RA review,calibration...[URL]https://avclub.gr/forum/showthread.php/166352-Samsung-TV-Line-up-2019?p=1058343296&viewfull=1#post1058343296[/URL] [B]suggested calibration settings:[/B] Picture mode: Movie Expert Backlight: 15_ένταση του οπίσθιου φωτισμού-φωτεινότητα Brightness: 0 Contrast: 45 Color: 25 Sharpness: 0 Tone (G/R): 0 Copy picture settings: All sources Digital clean view: Off Auto Motion Plus: Off / Manual (5/0) HDMI UHD Color: On for HDR sources Color temp: Warm2 Gamma: 2.2 Color space: Auto Note: We include calibration settings only for SDR, not HDR. For our calibration we have deactivated the ambient light sensor that automatically adjusts the backlight setting according to your environment. You may prefer to have it enabled. 65"...[lesnumeriques.com]...Samsung QE65Q70RA test...[URL]https://avclub.gr/forum/showthread.php/166352-Samsung-TV-Line-up-2019?p=1058402119&viewfull=1#post1058402119[/URL] 65"...[ixbt.com]...Comparison LG 65C9 vs Samsung QE65Q70RAUXRU vs Xiaomi L65M5-5S vs Harper 65U750TS...[URL]https://www.ixbt.com/tv/65-inch-tv-comparison.html[/URL] 55"...[hdtvtest.co.uk]...Samsung QE55Q70RA review...[URL]https://avclub.gr/forum/showthread.php/166352-Samsung-TV-Line-up-2019?p=1058373425&viewfull=1#post1058373425[/URL] [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqvICH0kmFc[/URL] 55"...[rtings.com]...Samsung QN55Q70RA review...[URL]https://avclub.gr/forum/showthread.php/166352-Samsung-TV-Line-up-2019?p=1058327901&viewfull=1#post1058327901[/URL] 55"...[avforums.com]...Samsung QE55Q70RA review...[URL]https://avclub.gr/forum/showthread.php/166352-Samsung-TV-Line-up-2019?p=1058345681&viewfull=1#post1058345681[/URL] 55"...[hdtvpolska.com]...Samsung QE55Q70RA review...[URL]https://avclub.gr/forum/showthread.php/166352-Samsung-TV-Line-up-2019?p=1058358793&viewfull=1#post1058358793[/URL] 55"...[geex.x-kom.pl]...Samsung QE55Q70RA review...[URL]https://geex.x-kom.pl/recenzje/samsung-55q70r-test-i-recenzja-zaawansowanego-telewizora-4k-hdr/[/URL] μετάφραση google [URL="https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fgeex.x-kom.pl%2Frecenzje%2Fsamsung-55q70r-test-i-recenzja-zaawansowanego-telewizora-4k-hdr%2F"]pl to en[/URL] ...[I]we should note that we tested [B]version 2 of this model (Version No. 2)[/B]. This version of the TV uses a VA LCD matrix, most likely from AUO. [/I]As a rule, VA matrices provide higher contrast than IPS LCD matrices, but at the cost of worse color reproduction when viewed at an angle... ...Although the matrix itself has a high native contrast, Samsung engineers have decided to "increase" the contrast by additional methods. Three techniques were used: local dimming (local blanking of the LEDs), frame dimming (darkening the entire frame), manipulation of the brightness curve.... ...the backlight control algorithms are slightly better refined than last year (2018). Indeed, their operation is very interesting, because a lot of emphasis was put on preventing the formation of any halos or light envelopes around bright objects. To this end, even if a bright object (e.g. a lamp) is in the center of the screen, the control algorithm "lights" the entire horizontal row of zones behind the screen, not just one or two zones directly below the object. In this way, blooming halo was avoided), because there is no border between the stronger and less highlighted area. The operation of the algorithm is so unusual that it can sometimes resemble the work of ... edge lighting (with LEDs located along the vertical edges of the screen). ...The other way to "improve black" is running in the background, non- switchable global dimming and brightening the entire picture frame (so-called frame dimming ). On the one hand, especially when compared to QLED AD 2018 TVs, it works more subtly, but compared to the 55Q60R model it works more aggressively. This can be seen very clearly from the scene from the movie ( Revenant , 2015), when after the scene with sparks rising from a burning bonfire the camera shows the face of Hawk (son of the main character) resting under the tree. [IMG]https://geex.x-kom.pl/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/frame-dimming-samsung-55q70rw.jpg[/IMG] ...With the naked eye, not only the sudden decrease in brightness of the whole frame was noticeable, but also the loss of detail visibility in the shadows. Interestingly, when subtitles appeared on the screen, the reverse phenomenon occurred ... this time I will illustrate the scene from the movie Solo (2018)... [IMG]https://geex.x-kom.pl/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/scena-z-filmu-solo-na-ekranie-samsunga-55q70rw.gif[/IMG] In general, the operation of the dimmable diode has its advantages and disadvantages. The advantage is great black, which gives the impression of almost that of OLEDs. On the other hand, this tar black absorbs details like a sponge with water. Here is an example: [IMG]https://geex.x-kom.pl/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/samsung-55q70rw-czern-ekranu.gif[/IMG] [IMG]https://geex.x-kom.pl/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/obraz-na-ekranie-samsunga-55q70rw-1.jpg[/IMG] ...Can anything be done about it? Please note that [B]we are talking about the factory settings of the movie mode[/B] . You can use the contrast enhancer function low. and / or move the gamma slider to the right. In addition, professional calibration could help the most, although, in my opinion, it will not be completely effective, because the algorithms for blanking and manipulation of the brightness curve are unfortunately beyond the control of the calibrator, and the local dimming system cannot, traditionally for Samsung TVs, be completely turned off.... [IMG]https://geex.x-kom.pl/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/matryca-Samsnga-55Q70Rw2.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.tvtest.pl/wp-content/uploads/Samsung-55Q70R-iw1.jpg[/IMG] via [[URL="http://www.tvtest.pl/samsung-55q70r-test/"]tvtest.pl[/URL]] 49"...[homecinemamagazine.nl]...Samsung QE49Q70RA review,sample,calibration...[URL]https://avclub.gr/forum/showthread.php/166352-Samsung-TV-Line-up-2019?p=1058350866&viewfull=1#post1058350866[/URL] ---------------------------------- [B]Comparison:[/B] The Samsung QN Q60RA vs QN Q70RA - What's The Difference?...[URL]https://avclub.gr/forum/showthread.php/166352-Samsung-TV-Line-up-2019?p=1058307620&viewfull=1#post1058307620[/URL] The Samsung QN Q70RA vs QN Q80RA - What's The Difference?...[URL]https://avclub.gr/forum/showthread.php/166352-Samsung-TV-Line-up-2019?p=1058307620&viewfull=1#post1058307620[/URL] ------------------------------------- [B]Αρχικές τιμές στην ελληνική αγορά[/B]: QE Q70R...[URL]https://avclub.gr/forum/showthread.php/166352-Samsung-TV-Line-up-2019?p=1058301694&viewfull=1#post1058301694[/URL] QE82Q70RA : 4.999 QE75Q70RA : 3.899 QE65Q70RA : 2.299 QE55Q70RA : 1.799 QE49Q70RA : 1.599 [/QUOTE]
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