Star Wars: The Last Jedi

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Kosh

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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII (2017)

Εχουμε πιθανη διαρροη σεναριου !!!!


Kαι ο τιτλος ειναι .....


Echoes of the Dark Side




It's divided into three equally important plot threads that don't converge until the third act: Rey's, Finn's, and Kylo's.

There's not nearly as much action as TFA in the first two acts, but the third act goes full-on crazy.

The broad structure isn't as similar to ESB as TFA was to ANH, but the parallels are still present. Rey is training in the ways of the Force with an old Jedi master (Luke) on a wild planet while Finn and Poe are in a beautiful city that has a shady, sinister underpinning. Finn and Poe are betrayed and captured by Kylo Ren who uses them as bait to draw Rey out of hiding so Kylo and Rey can have a duel in an industrial portion of the city.

The backstory to Luke and his Jedi being wiped out is that Snoke seduced Kylo and a few of the other students to the dark side and tasked them with killing everyone. Luke and a few others survived, including a young Rey who was subsequently dumped on Jakku by Luke.

Rey's mom died in the attack.

Rey is pissed at Luke because she guesses that he was her father and is angry at him for abandoning her. Luke turns to her and says "No, you are my father".

Yes, really.

Rey is the reincarnation of Anakin Skywalker. Luke went to the first Jedi temple to better understand how the process works. He learned that the spirit of the chosen one is reincarnated by the Force every time the universe is thrown out of balance, which apparently happens on a semi-regular basis (Anakin was hardly the first time the chosen one reincarnated). This is why she's so crazy powerful with the Force (remember that Anakin blew up the Trade Federation donut ship by himself when he was like 8 years old).

Rey was the product of a virgin birth, but midichlorians aren't mentioned (Luke says "you are a child of the Force").

Luke is hesitant to train her because, according to Jedi history, the chosen one always struggles with staying on the light side of the Force because of the chaotic power running through them. He's afraid that she could become Vader 2.0. If he trains her to fight Kylo, and she turns dark, she would do way more damage to the galaxy than Kylo could ever dream of doing.

He ultimately trains her anyway and leaves everything up to the Force. He makes this decision in a scene where he confers with the ghosts of Obi-Wan and Yoda (Ewan MacGregor and Frank Oz come back).

Rey learns lightsaber skills, Force skills, and has a vision quest thing where she talks with Maz Kanata (unsure if it’s telepathy or just a dream) and Hayden Christenson. The latter tells her that she is him, but different, and there’s a quick scene where we see hundreds of other Force ghosts who are implied to be past chosen ones.

Rey feels Finn's distress elsewhere in the galaxy and says she needs to go to him. Luke tells her about the time he felt his friends in distress and Yoda told him to stay and finish his training, and his disobedience led to pain. But then he says he isn't Yoda, and has his own way of doing things, and tags along with her to go help.

Finn wakes up on a Resistance cruiser and is told by Poe that they're already en route to the makeshift Republic homeworld in the wake of the capital planet being blown up by Starkiller Base.

Leia wants to lobby them to go to war.

The Republic is being led by an interim dictator named Lord Vikram (Benicio Del Toro), who was quickly put into power by the few senators still around to maintain order.

Starkiller's destruction of the Republic core worlds caused a galactic communications disruption because everything was routed through those worlds, so Vikram is trying to reestablish contact and ensure the Republic doesn't collapse into anarchy.

Leia and Vikram butt heads. Vikram agrees that the Republic has to go to war with the First Order, but wants to wait for communications to come back online so they can muster up a sizable force (all they have right now is a single small fleet). Leia disagrees, and wants to take the war to the First Order now while Snoke is still reeling from Starkiller's destruction. She says both sides are in chaos, which makes this an opportune time to strike. Vikram counters by telling her she's letting her personal emotions over Han's death get in the way, and Leia throws it back at him by telling him he was always a little snake of a politician when they would argue back in her senate days, etc, etc, they have old bad blood or whatever.

The Republic planet is safe because it's protected by a heavy duty shield that can repel any invasion or bombardment from the First Order.

Finn and Poe are tasked by Leia to investigate the city because one of Leia's contacts informed her that the First Order have spies embedded in the Republic. Leia suspects Vikram.

Finn quickly becomes enamored by Leia's contact, Chala (Kelly Marie Tran), who tags along with him and Poe through the underbelly of the city to gather information.

Finn and Chala have a flirty romance subplot that involves a nighttime adventure through the rustic old city (this is the second entry in the trilogy after all, and poetry demands it).

Finn, Poe and Chala all corner the culprit: Vikram's aide, who has evidence of contact between Vikram and the First Order. Leia and some Resistance fighters confront Vikram and throw him in jail for treason. He denies everything, and the rest of the Republic officials are horrified because Leia basically just coup-de-etat'd the **** out of their leadership. Leia assumes control of the planet's defenses and absentmindedly puts Finn in charge of the shield codes.

Finn and Chala have a moment and Finn mentions his confusion about why Vikram didn't just lower the shields for the First Order. They walk into a room and Phasma is standing there and Chala draws a gun on Finn and forcibly takes the codes for disarming the shield from him. She says she planted the evidence, used Finn to get the codes, and basically that she thinks he's a dirty traitor to the First Order. In a moment of pure pottery, Phasma makes Finn lower the shields.

The First Order fleet jumps out of hyperspace and invades the planet, quickly capturing Finn, Poe and Leia. Kylo starts to torture Finn using the Force, knowing that it will draw Rey out of hiding and into his trap.



Αλλα μπορει και να διαψευστουν ολα αυτα αυριο :D
 

SR-71

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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII (2017)

Πω πω ρε πουθτη μου ...

Ειχαμε τους Μηχανικους στον Προμηθεα να κανουμε ενα-δυο σεναρια (καπως προσγειωμενα)
μας προεκυψε τσουναμι απο SW fanbase .... προορισμενο να καταπνιξει καθε αλλο hype !

Μιλαμε για βαρβατο Empire Strikes Back .... οχι αστεια !
 
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Kosh

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Blue08

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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII (2017)

Πωπω!!
Για να το στήσουν όλο αυτό κάποια καλή σκηνή πρέπει να γυρίσουν εκεί!! :cool:
 

SR-71

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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII (2017)

E να τους χεσω ...

Aκομα τετραγωνη η κεραια πανω στο Falcon ! :icon15:

Βαλτε την στρογγυλη, ρε ασχετοι ! .... :laugh:

Τι σαρωση να πετυχει η τετραγωνη ... καρασχετιδηδες ! :icon15:
 

pathfinder

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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII (2017)

Πωπω!!
Για να το στήσουν όλο αυτό κάποια καλή σκηνή πρέπει να γυρίσουν εκεί!! :cool:
Εμένα μου φαίνεται να είναι το μέρος που βρίσκεται ο Luke Skywalker στο οποίο πήγε να τον βρει Rey.
 

SR-71

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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII (2017)

Eχω την εντυπωση οτι τα σκηνικα γινονται ολοενα φαντασμαγορικοτερα
χωρις ομως ολο αυτο να μεταφερεται στο πανι ... αντιστοιχα μεγαλειωδως !

We shall see ....
 

vadergr

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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII (2017)

Spoilers απο την αναμέτρηση της ταινίας ...
Luke is BACK !!!!

Recently I glimpsed some photos of a set at Malin Head on the water. On the shoreline were seven men in black. There might be more but some of the people are hard to make out. All of these people are wearing all black with helmets, most of the helmets resemble medieval knights with weapons. The characters are not wearing the black covers to hide their costumes like they did back at Dubrovnik. These are actual black costumes. It is my opinion and the source’s opinion that these are the Knights of Ren. Kylo Ren could always have another gang of warriors in black but I think its likely they’re the guys we saw in The Force Awakens.

There are “black helmeted medieval looking figures” going after Luke Skywalker and Rey on the coast of Ahch-To. The guys I once referred to as Jedi Hunters back in the day were described in the same way back during the production of Star Wars: The Force Awakens.

From what I have heard a few times, Rey is reluctant, if not angry at Luke Skywalker because she has to kill Kylo Ren and she doesn’t want to do it. The scene that follows appears to be when the showdown finally begins. I suppose she accepts her duty or has no choice but to fight.

The text below is what the source(s) witnessed.

Luke Skywalker and Rey are on Ahch-To just before nightfall as the sun sets in the background and it starts to rain.
Rey’s hair is pulled back. She doesn’t have the vest from VII on.
Luke and Rey are wearing the costumes we described before.
Kylo Ren and The Knights of Ren turn up along the coast.
Kylo Ren continues advancing towards the heroes with the Knights of Ren.
Kylo does not wear the mask here.
Kylo has the same cross guard saber as he did in VII.
Kylo’s costume looked the same as in VII.
Rey and Kylo Ren duel one-on-one and end up fighting alongside the cliff face over looking the nighttime water.
Kylo wants his revenge after Rey disgraced him.
The Knights of Ren go for Luke Skywalker while Rey is left for Kylo.
Luke Skywalker engages the knights on the beach while Kylo attempts to kill Rey.
The first black knight has an axe and moves towards the Luke but is Force pushed away to his death after being thrown through the air.
After Luke dispatches the first knight he ignites his green lightsaber.
Luke moves through each knight one by one.
Rey and Kylo’s battle moves up to the side of a cliff.
Suddenly Rey is nowhere to be seen. She’s taken out of the battle, either wounded or appears to go over the side of the cliff.
Luke Skywalker casually walks towards Kylo to finish him but Kylo retreats when he sees Skywalker and his crew defeated.
Luke Skywalker is a badass Jedi and he’ll destroy your squad.
One source commented:

“A lot of wire work was used.”
Luke Skywalker fights the Knights of Ren using the Force and then his sword, a mixture of wizard and warrior. While we can confirm that Luke does use his lightsaber, we think we can confirm the color too; the lightsaber was green for the light-rod on set. So it appears Luke still has his Return of the Jedi saber after all these years. There were also white flashing effects used in the battle.

The question is, does Luke let Kylo run? Can he not kill him for familial reasons or because Rey must do it as part of her training? The impression I get is that Luke knew Kylo would run and allows him to. Luke’s behavior doesn’t indicate he believes Rey is killed or anything like that. My guess is they may film something back at Pinewood of Rey hanging on for life or injured on the side of the cliff. It sounds like Luke Skywalker arrives in time to save her from Kylo’s treachery and Rey is a really good free climber after all.

We theorize that the location is the final Jedi ruin site Luke and Rey need to visit. Based on some rumors out of Pinewood, we also theorize that Kylo may be running inside the location Luke and Rey are heading towards so the fight will continue inside the spooky ruins of the Jedi Temple there. But at this point we have no verification of these theories just the bullet pointed statements above.

The sequence sounds really fun and may be the coolest start to a duel in a Star Wars film ever.
 

Φρα.Πε.

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Απάντηση: Star Wars: Episode VIII (2017)

Σε συνέχεια του Post122

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τα αλίευσα απο εδώ

sorry για το μακροσκελές post
ορίστε μια SW πατάτα

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Kosh

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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII (2017)

Εγω ειμαι σαν την Ντορυ ξεχναω τα παντα μετα απο μικρο χρονικο διαστημα για αυτο και τα βλεπω με χαρα.
 

SR-71

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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII (2017)

Leaked photos απο ενα Falcon δεν σακατευουν το ασπιλο και αμωμο της πλοκης.
Η πλοκη (και το σεναριο) ειναι που συντελουν στο αναπαντεχο, οχι ενα Falcon
που ακομα και η μανα μου γνωριζει (ανευ κατηχησης, βεβαια :p).

Σχετικα με την προσηλωση στην αυθετικοτητα του Falcon ....
τo Falcon της πρωτης φωτο .... δειχνει οτι το πραγμα τεινει στην τσαπατσουλια και την βιασυνη.
Ακομα και ο σχετικα ημιμαθης αντιλαμβανεται ... χοντροκοπιες. Εαν δεν μπουν μεσα στα πλανα,
ουδεν προβλημα. Ομως για να εχουν τελειωσει ολοκληρο το σκαφος (και οχι απλως το μισο)
αυτο σημαινει οτι θα φανουν ΤΑ ΠΑΝΤΑ.

Γιατι τοση βιασυνη ? Πρεπει να καταστραφει η αυθεντικοτητα .... οπως και δηποτε ? :icon15: