Τεχνολογικά νέα, καινοτομίες .... στις Canon

Kosh

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Για να δουμε σημερα ειναι η ημερα ανακοινωσεων.
 
Kosh

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Περα απο την πλακα τωρα αυτες οι δυο καμερες δεν ειναι τυχαιο που βγηκαν μαζι νομιζω.

Στην προηγουμενη γενια ειχαν βγει μαζι οι R5/R6 τα χρονια περασαν η R6II βγηκε πλεον μονη της ως μια πιο οικονομικη εναλλακτικη "χαμηλης" αναλυσης και πλεον το νεο διδυμο για επαγγελματιες που συμπληρωνει αριστα η μια την αλλη ειναι οι R1/R5II.

Η δευτερη για χρηση βιντεο στο υψιστο επιπεδο (8κ60p raw clog2 ειναι η καλυτερη ποιοτητα που μπορουσε η canon) και για φωτογραφιες μεγαλης αναλυσης και η πρωτη για φωτογραφηση και εστιαση στο υψιστο επαγγελματικο επιπεδο και αντικαθιστα νομιζω σε ολα τα επιπεδα την R3.

Ενας πελατης της canon δηλαδη αυτες τις δυο καμερες θα προτιμουσε για να καλυψει ολη την γκαμα των διαφορετικων εργασιων του.
 
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"We're having deeper communication with the third-party lens manufacturers compared to a year before. The background to having this deeper communication with the third parties is that we have already launched more than 40 RF lenses in the course of six years. So, we have quite a versatile lineup already. So that's the reason why we are progressing with collaboration with the third-party manufacturers,"
 
Highpriest

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Για εμένα ήταν σαν να μην υπάρχει η Canon μέσα στις επιλογές μου με το μπλόκο που είχε στους τρίτους κατασκευαστές, αλλά τελικά έβαλε μυαλό, μισοάνοιξε το σύστημα και ξαναμπήκε σε μελλοντικό consideration.

Δύσκολο μεν πλέον να σκεφτώ για ολική αλλαγή σε Canon, αλλά ίσως υπάρχουν κι άλλοι που την είχαν επίσης ξεγράψει λόγο εμπάργκο και τώρα το βλέπουν με πιο θετικό μάτι.

Ομως περιμένω να δω και FF υλοποιήσεις απο τρίτους κατασκευαστές. Να ανοίξει και εκείνο το κομμάτι φακών.
 
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Tην πρωτη Canon EOS-1D την ειχε δοκιμασει ποτε κανεις ?

Δεν θυμομουν καν οτι ηταν η μοναδικη ψηφιακη της canon με αισθητηρα (4mp) CCD.

kodak αισθητηρας λογικα....
 
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Canon wants its lower-end models to surpass its higher-end models - mirrorlessrumors

Phototrend had a chat with Canon. Here is a summary from Digicameinfo: (When did development of the EOS R1 begin?) The EOS R1 was aimed at creating a hybrid body that would surpass the EOS flagship EOS-1D X Mark III. When the EOS R3 was released (in 2021), we already had in mind the development…
www.mirrorlessrumors.com www.mirrorlessrumors.com

phototrend.fr

Interview Canon : avec l'EOS R1, "notre mission est de fournir le boîtier ultime aux photographes pro"

Lors lancement des Canon EOS R1 et EOS R5 Mark II, nous avons interviewé Manabu Kato et Tomokazu Yoshida, Unit Executive et General Manager de la division ICB. Ils reviennent avec nous sur les grandes orientations stratégiques de la marque, et sur les innovations de ces deux boîtiers.
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  • (When did development of the EOS R1 begin?)
    The EOS R1 was aimed at creating a hybrid body that would surpass the EOS flagship EOS-1D X Mark III. When the EOS R3 was released (in 2021), we already had in mind the development of a true flagship camera.
  • (Why not use a global shutter?)
    We already use global shutters in some (professional) products and are aware of their advantages and possibilities, but our mission is to provide our professional customers with the ultimate tool, and we want to ensure that there are no drawbacks in any environment.
  • (Why has the pixel count of the EOS R1 not increased since the R3?) It
    was the result of considering the balance, and the EOS R1 also aims for very excellent high sensitivity performance. We also wanted to make the shutter speed as fast as possible. Considering these points, we felt that 24 megapixels offered a good balance between the advantages and disadvantages.
  • (Basic principles of the DIGIC Accelerator and its differences with DIGIC X)
    The advantage of the DIGIC Accelerator is its processing speed, and it has succeeded in incorporating deep learning technology even during high-speed continuous shooting. DIGIC X and the DIGIC Accelerator are independent chips, with the Accelerator specifically performing AF and subject recognition, and DIGIC X in charge of image development.
  • (Will the EOS R6 Mark II end up in the shadow of the all-around better EOS R5 Mark II?)
    We want each camera to compete with the others and always try to surpass the higher-end models, so we hope that the EOS R6 Mark III will eventually surpass the EOS R5 Mark II, and then the EOS R5 Mark III will come along and bring things back into balance.
  • (With the EOS R1 now out there, what about the EOS R3?)
    While the EOS R1 is better than the R3 in some areas, we believe the EOS R3 is the most balanced, and therefore will remain the best option for some customers.
  • (Sigma and Tamron have entered the RF mount market, but are there plans to collaborate with other brands?)
    I can’t go into details, but we are in discussions with multiple third parties to explore possible partnerships.
  • (There are some photographers who are stuck with SLRs. What would you say to them to upgrade to the EOS R5 Mark II or EOS R1?)
    I think the EOS R1 can do almost everything a SLR can do. There are only advantages, no disadvantages. I want them to experience the benefits of hybrid (mirrorless) cameras. I want customers to feel at ease when switching to hybrid cameras. The transition to mirrorless cameras is almost complete in Japan and Asia, and the transition is accelerating in Europe.
  • (There are complaints that the EOS R1 is more expensive than competitors’ cameras?)
    If you try the EOS R1, I think you’ll agree that it’s a camera that offers much more. With so many features, the cost is naturally higher. But I think it’s worth more than the price difference with other models.

Η μεταφραση απο την συνεντευξη του Tomokazu Yoshida, Unit Executive et General Manager of ICB (Image Communication Business) Canon Inc (Japan)
 
Highpriest

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Kosh said:
www.mirrorlessrumors.com

Canon wants its lower-end models to surpass its higher-end models - mirrorlessrumors

Phototrend had a chat with Canon. Here is a summary from Digicameinfo: (When did development of the EOS R1 begin?) The EOS R1 was aimed at creating a hybrid body that would surpass the EOS flagship EOS-1D X Mark III. When the EOS R3 was released (in 2021), we already had in mind the development…
www.mirrorlessrumors.com www.mirrorlessrumors.com

phototrend.fr

Interview Canon : avec l'EOS R1, "notre mission est de fournir le boîtier ultime aux photographes pro"

Lors lancement des Canon EOS R1 et EOS R5 Mark II, nous avons interviewé Manabu Kato et Tomokazu Yoshida, Unit Executive et General Manager de la division ICB. Ils reviennent avec nous sur les grandes orientations stratégiques de la marque, et sur les innovations de ces deux boîtiers.
phototrend.fr phototrend.fr


  • (When did development of the EOS R1 begin?)
    The EOS R1 was aimed at creating a hybrid body that would surpass the EOS flagship EOS-1D X Mark III. When the EOS R3 was released (in 2021), we already had in mind the development of a true flagship camera.
  • (Why not use a global shutter?)
    We already use global shutters in some (professional) products and are aware of their advantages and possibilities, but our mission is to provide our professional customers with the ultimate tool, and we want to ensure that there are no drawbacks in any environment.
  • (Why has the pixel count of the EOS R1 not increased since the R3?) It
    was the result of considering the balance, and the EOS R1 also aims for very excellent high sensitivity performance. We also wanted to make the shutter speed as fast as possible. Considering these points, we felt that 24 megapixels offered a good balance between the advantages and disadvantages.
  • (Basic principles of the DIGIC Accelerator and its differences with DIGIC X)
    The advantage of the DIGIC Accelerator is its processing speed, and it has succeeded in incorporating deep learning technology even during high-speed continuous shooting. DIGIC X and the DIGIC Accelerator are independent chips, with the Accelerator specifically performing AF and subject recognition, and DIGIC X in charge of image development.
  • (Will the EOS R6 Mark II end up in the shadow of the all-around better EOS R5 Mark II?)
    We want each camera to compete with the others and always try to surpass the higher-end models, so we hope that the EOS R6 Mark III will eventually surpass the EOS R5 Mark II, and then the EOS R5 Mark III will come along and bring things back into balance.
  • (With the EOS R1 now out there, what about the EOS R3?)
    While the EOS R1 is better than the R3 in some areas, we believe the EOS R3 is the most balanced, and therefore will remain the best option for some customers.
  • (Sigma and Tamron have entered the RF mount market, but are there plans to collaborate with other brands?)
    I can’t go into details, but we are in discussions with multiple third parties to explore possible partnerships.
  • (There are some photographers who are stuck with SLRs. What would you say to them to upgrade to the EOS R5 Mark II or EOS R1?)
    I think the EOS R1 can do almost everything a SLR can do. There are only advantages, no disadvantages. I want them to experience the benefits of hybrid (mirrorless) cameras. I want customers to feel at ease when switching to hybrid cameras. The transition to mirrorless cameras is almost complete in Japan and Asia, and the transition is accelerating in Europe.
  • (There are complaints that the EOS R1 is more expensive than competitors’ cameras?)
    If you try the EOS R1, I think you’ll agree that it’s a camera that offers much more. With so many features, the cost is naturally higher. But I think it’s worth more than the price difference with other models.

Η μεταφραση απο την συνεντευξη του Tomokazu Yoshida, Unit Executive et General Manager of ICB (Image Communication Business) Canon Inc (Japan)
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θα ξεκινήσω λέγοντας πως η R1 είναι όντως τρομερή κάμερα.

That said, δεν πιστευω λέξη για το development της.
Θεωρώ πως η R3 ήταν να παρουσιαστεί σαν R1 αλλά θα φαινόταν πολύ φτωχή σε σχεση με τον ανταγωνισμο. Έτσι γεννήθηκε η R3. Στην πορεία είδαν πως κάποια πράγματα δεν τους έβγαιναν μετά ώστε να παρουσιάσουν όντως κάτι πιο καινοτόμο απο την Sony και παρουσίασαν αυτη την R1 σαν flagship. Με ελάχιστες διαφορες απο την τρέχουσα R3.

Για εμένα δεν είναι καθόλου κακό αυτό. Πολλές φορές η βελτίωση σε σημεία που ήδη υπάρχουν είναι προτιμότερη απο μια καινοτομία τύπου global shutter. Παραβλέπουμε κάποιες φορές ορισμένα features στο κυνήγι του ενός καινοτόμου feature που μπορεί να μην λειτουργεί καν σωστά ακόμη.

Απο εκει και πέρα όμως δεν τρώμε και κουτόχορτο. Αυτή η μηχανη θα μπορούσε να λέγεται R3ii ή R1ii (αν η R3 είχε βγει εξαρχής σαν R1)
Αυτά που λέει ο General Manager είναι για τους αφελείς και μόνο.

Τιμολογιακά πάντως είναι σε νορμάλ επίπεδο για τις δυνατότητες της.
Προσωπικά όμως απο το line up των high end Canon θα επέλεγα την R5ii. Την βρισκω σαν το πιο ολοκληρωμένο σύνολο και VFM της γκάμας στα υψηλά πατώματα.
 
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