ATI HD 2400 + UVD PERFORMANCE
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Re: Απάντηση: ATI HD 2400 + UVD PERFORMANCE
η διαφορα ειναι μηδαμινη.η 2400χτ εχει 69ευρο(passive) και η 2600προ εχει
82ευρο.
ειδικα τα καινουργια cooler της asus- εαν κρινω απο την 8600gts- δεν ακουγονται καθολου.
υπαρχει και μια σκεψη για 1950 προ αλλα ειμαστε εκτος dx10 και εχουμε και περισοτερο ζορι στο h/a.διαφορετικα η τιμη της ειναι χωμα...
http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=2&l2=8&l3=559&l4=0&model=1774&modelmenu=1
η διαφορα ειναι μηδαμινη.η 2400χτ εχει 69ευρο(passive) και η 2600προ εχει
82ευρο.
ειδικα τα καινουργια cooler της asus- εαν κρινω απο την 8600gts- δεν ακουγονται καθολου.
υπαρχει και μια σκεψη για 1950 προ αλλα ειμαστε εκτος dx10 και εχουμε και περισοτερο ζορι στο h/a.διαφορετικα η τιμη της ειναι χωμα...
http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=2&l2=8&l3=559&l4=0&model=1774&modelmenu=1
Re: Απάντηση: ATI HD 2400 + UVD PERFORMANCE
Μακριά απο 1950pro αν την θές για HTPC!!Δεν έχει UVD!
Aν θές games και HTPC τότε 2600xt, όχι 2900 (ακόμα είναι χωρίς UVD)!!
Μακριά απο 1950pro αν την θές για HTPC!!Δεν έχει UVD!
Aν θές games και HTPC τότε 2600xt, όχι 2900 (ακόμα είναι χωρίς UVD)!!
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"Updated post of Vista32 79biofix + HTPC tweaks. Beyond updating the comments on the reg changes to current knowledge, this changes little from the previous one. For the 2400 dxva_nohddecode was set to 0 to enable mpeg2 HD acceleration, and more importantly vforce was set large enough for PDVD to fill a 1080p screen. The last post had it just a little low so some people were still getting extra borders.
http://rapidshare.com/files/52529639...ks_V2.zip.html
Still can't figure out how to deselect colour/flesh "enhancements" by default. They're set to zero so probably not doing anything, but you might want to switch them off in CCC anyway.
Support was added for the 2400XT, 2350, various 2400/2600 AGP models, and some other third party cards. These are commented in the above .inf file. I also stripped out support for all non-UVD cards, since the changes below aren't intended for them, and it makes the .inf less spammy.
Before installing, run the complete ATI self-destruct sequence to rid your machine of driver remnants: in control panel/programs, uninstall ATI Catalyst Install Manager, and tell it to delete all ATI software. Reboot after, then delete any ATI directories in c:\program files, and if you have them run drivercleaner or xdc.
BORING LONG LIST OF REGISTRY CHANGES (for those wanting to do it manually):
These exist under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\.. .. , and in whichever one is your card (just hunt till you find the one with 0000 and 0001 with bazillions of entries). The entries below go under \UMD\DXVA, and in Vista are regstrings (except for a few which already exist and are reg_binary). In XP I think they go in the 0000 root, and are dwords.
added trdenoise 0 = turns off forced temporal denoise, which just blurs things
added dxva_detailenhance 0 = turns off forced sharpener. Some people may like this, so have a play - personally I think it results in too many unnatural edges with low bitrate stuff.
added VForceMaxResSize 2800000 = this sets the PDVD HDDVD/Bluray max render size in pixels. The formula appears to be screen width squared * 0.75, so for 1920 wide screens it needs to be at least 2764800. If the key doesn't exist at all as in the default installs, it assumes a value of approx 2 million pixels, not enough to fill a 1080p screen. The above value is OK for up to 1920 pixels wide, but if you have a 2500*1600 screen it needs to be 4687500 or greater. Since there's maybe a performance reason for a limit, it's probably worth not setting it higher than you need.
Fleshtone and ColorVibrance minimum/defaults changed to 0. The standard 2600 install has these on and at 25, but if you disable them in CCC they actually still continue to work at their default, ie 25. Setting mins and defaults to 0 means that when you deselect them in CCC, they actually turn off - your choice of course, but several people have reported that vibrance in particular results in posterisation.
added UseBT601CSC 1 = causes SD to expand to 0-255, in the same manner as HD (which expands regardless what you do) for a consistent single calibration between the two. If you want 16-235 (video levels) then go into CCC/avivo video/basic colour and turn "use application settings" off, brightness to 16, contrast 86. This expansion then contraction is less than ideal, but fortunately the drivers/card make a good job of it, and it's visually lossless.
(2600 only) default di mode to VA. In Vista there's a bug where auto mode in CCC for 1080i just selects bob. This reg change forces the issue. Unfortunately, it won't work for the 2400 in Vista because only bob/weave are allowed in standard directshow (powerdvd is the exception, it somehow bypasses this).
(2400 only) dxva_nohddecode added and set to 0. Enables mpeg2 HD acceleration. This can potentially create problems - if your GPU (see rivatuner) is being maxxed out by 1080i mpeg2 after this, set this back to 1 and use PowerDVD with hardware deinterlacing in options/video/advanced forced to 3C (vector-adaptive, the best) or 55 (motion-adaptive, next best). This avoids the enormous hit of mpeg2 HD decoding, which is around 50% GPU on a 2400pro or 35% on a 2600pro, but still gets you hardware deinterlacing. As above, in Vista the drivers for the 2400 will happily ignore whatever deinterlacing mode you select in CCC. XP is better behaved and will obey the CCC mode, but outside PDVD to get deinterlacing without acceleration the only choice (afaik) is the Bitcontrol mpeg2 decoder.
Other known bugs: PAL film is misdetected as video (barely noticeable), mpeg2 not in UVD but in shaders, 2400 Bluray mpeg2 not accelerated regardless of regsettings, 50hz displays have no overscan correction."
Aπο Avsforum...
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11491190#post11491190
Eίναι για Vista32!!
http://rapidshare.com/files/52529639...ks_V2.zip.html
Still can't figure out how to deselect colour/flesh "enhancements" by default. They're set to zero so probably not doing anything, but you might want to switch them off in CCC anyway.
Support was added for the 2400XT, 2350, various 2400/2600 AGP models, and some other third party cards. These are commented in the above .inf file. I also stripped out support for all non-UVD cards, since the changes below aren't intended for them, and it makes the .inf less spammy.
Before installing, run the complete ATI self-destruct sequence to rid your machine of driver remnants: in control panel/programs, uninstall ATI Catalyst Install Manager, and tell it to delete all ATI software. Reboot after, then delete any ATI directories in c:\program files, and if you have them run drivercleaner or xdc.
BORING LONG LIST OF REGISTRY CHANGES (for those wanting to do it manually):
These exist under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\.. .. , and in whichever one is your card (just hunt till you find the one with 0000 and 0001 with bazillions of entries). The entries below go under \UMD\DXVA, and in Vista are regstrings (except for a few which already exist and are reg_binary). In XP I think they go in the 0000 root, and are dwords.
added trdenoise 0 = turns off forced temporal denoise, which just blurs things
added dxva_detailenhance 0 = turns off forced sharpener. Some people may like this, so have a play - personally I think it results in too many unnatural edges with low bitrate stuff.
added VForceMaxResSize 2800000 = this sets the PDVD HDDVD/Bluray max render size in pixels. The formula appears to be screen width squared * 0.75, so for 1920 wide screens it needs to be at least 2764800. If the key doesn't exist at all as in the default installs, it assumes a value of approx 2 million pixels, not enough to fill a 1080p screen. The above value is OK for up to 1920 pixels wide, but if you have a 2500*1600 screen it needs to be 4687500 or greater. Since there's maybe a performance reason for a limit, it's probably worth not setting it higher than you need.
Fleshtone and ColorVibrance minimum/defaults changed to 0. The standard 2600 install has these on and at 25, but if you disable them in CCC they actually still continue to work at their default, ie 25. Setting mins and defaults to 0 means that when you deselect them in CCC, they actually turn off - your choice of course, but several people have reported that vibrance in particular results in posterisation.
added UseBT601CSC 1 = causes SD to expand to 0-255, in the same manner as HD (which expands regardless what you do) for a consistent single calibration between the two. If you want 16-235 (video levels) then go into CCC/avivo video/basic colour and turn "use application settings" off, brightness to 16, contrast 86. This expansion then contraction is less than ideal, but fortunately the drivers/card make a good job of it, and it's visually lossless.
(2600 only) default di mode to VA. In Vista there's a bug where auto mode in CCC for 1080i just selects bob. This reg change forces the issue. Unfortunately, it won't work for the 2400 in Vista because only bob/weave are allowed in standard directshow (powerdvd is the exception, it somehow bypasses this).
(2400 only) dxva_nohddecode added and set to 0. Enables mpeg2 HD acceleration. This can potentially create problems - if your GPU (see rivatuner) is being maxxed out by 1080i mpeg2 after this, set this back to 1 and use PowerDVD with hardware deinterlacing in options/video/advanced forced to 3C (vector-adaptive, the best) or 55 (motion-adaptive, next best). This avoids the enormous hit of mpeg2 HD decoding, which is around 50% GPU on a 2400pro or 35% on a 2600pro, but still gets you hardware deinterlacing. As above, in Vista the drivers for the 2400 will happily ignore whatever deinterlacing mode you select in CCC. XP is better behaved and will obey the CCC mode, but outside PDVD to get deinterlacing without acceleration the only choice (afaik) is the Bitcontrol mpeg2 decoder.
Other known bugs: PAL film is misdetected as video (barely noticeable), mpeg2 not in UVD but in shaders, 2400 Bluray mpeg2 not accelerated regardless of regsettings, 50hz displays have no overscan correction."
Aπο Avsforum...
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11491190#post11491190
Eίναι για Vista32!!
Re: Απάντηση: ATI HD 2400 + UVD PERFORMANCE
Σωστα, εφοσον θες η καρτα σου να αναλαβει την αποκωδικοποιηση του υλικου με hardware acceleration. Αν ομως εχεις γρηγορο επεξεργαστη (απο Core2duo 6400 και πανω) τοτε οι 1650/1950pro ειναι αριστες επιλογες σε θεμα ποιοτητας απεικονισης.
Σωστα, εφοσον θες η καρτα σου να αναλαβει την αποκωδικοποιηση του υλικου με hardware acceleration. Αν ομως εχεις γρηγορο επεξεργαστη (απο Core2duo 6400 και πανω) τοτε οι 1650/1950pro ειναι αριστες επιλογες σε θεμα ποιοτητας απεικονισης.
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Re: Απάντηση: ATI HD 2400 + UVD PERFORMANCE
εχω 6600..
το μονο που με προβληματιζει στην 1950 ειναι οτι ουσιαστικα ξεχναω τον dx10...
Τακη(τωρα που σε βρηκα)ΜΟΝΟ ο ανταπτορας της ατι περναει και ηχο ή εχει προβλημα ο δικος μου.γιατι ενω βλεπει κανονικα το τσιπ ηχου της asus 1650pro δεν περναει ηχος...!!
εχω 6600..
το μονο που με προβληματιζει στην 1950 ειναι οτι ουσιαστικα ξεχναω τον dx10...
Τακη(τωρα που σε βρηκα)ΜΟΝΟ ο ανταπτορας της ατι περναει και ηχο ή εχει προβλημα ο δικος μου.γιατι ενω βλεπει κανονικα το τσιπ ηχου της asus 1650pro δεν περναει ηχος...!!
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Re: Απάντηση: ATI HD 2400 + UVD PERFORMANCE
Αφου βρε γράφεις για Asus 1650pro...
Γράφονται διάφορα για τον ήχο στις 2χ00HD κάρτες, αλλού παίζει και αλλού όχι...
Αφου βρε γράφεις για Asus 1650pro...
Γράφονται διάφορα για τον ήχο στις 2χ00HD κάρτες, αλλού παίζει και αλλού όχι...
Νίκος Σχ.
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το παραμύθι με το DX10 είναι από αλλού, και εξηγούμαι ... Το DX10 θα ισχύσει το νωρίτερο τον Μάρτιο του 2008 και θα είναι για πολύ λίγα games ( δεν χρησιμοποιείται πουθενά αλλού ) ενώ οι σημερινές και οι αυριανές κάρτες τα φτύνουν σε αποδόσεις ... Θες DX10 ; περιμένεις μέχρι το φθινόπωρο του 2008 ...
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Re: Απάντηση: ATI HD 2400 + UVD PERFORMANCE
αρα με τα σημερινα δεδομενα παιρνοντας μια 1950,
ουσιαστκα χανω το h/a των 2400-2600 κτλ..
αρα με τα σημερινα δεδομενα παιρνοντας μια 1950,
ουσιαστκα χανω το h/a των 2400-2600 κτλ..
Τέλη Ιουνίου που έκανα μία αναβάθμιση στη κάρτα γραφικών, προτίμησα την x1950pro, παρόλο που οι HD2600, 2400, μόλις είχαν κυκλοφορήσει (ή ήταν απλά θέμα μίας δύο εβδομάδων). Για τρεις λόγους κυρίως (εκτός της συμφέρουσας τιμής), πρώτον με τον Ε4300 στα 2400MHz (με μικρό overclocking) δεν υπάρχει πρόβλημα κι αν είναι λίγο αυξημένη η χρήση της cpu σε HD βίντεο (κυρίως δορυφορικά), δεύτερο ότι η x1950pro είναι πολύ καλύτερη κάρτα από τις νεώτερες 2600 και 2400 της ati για παιχνίδια σε dx9 (who cares about dx10), και τρίτον η ανύπαρκτη (ακόμα και τώρα) υποστήριξη αυτών των καρτών σε linux (ούτε για την 2900 υπάρχει υποστήριξη). Επαναλαμβάνεται η ιστορία με τις x1X00 που χρειάστηκαν 7-8 μήνες για να έχουν υποστήριξη από την ati σε linux...
XP HD 2400 users may try :
DL .. "findreg "
This little app will determine the right string of your HD 2400 pro
Regedit >HKEY _Local_Machine\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\
Now find the correspondent string that will look like this..... 68AACE4......
scroll down until you find :
DXVA_Only24FPS1080H264
DXVA_Only24FPS1080MPEG2
DXVA_Only24FPS1080VC1
change string from 1 to 0
__________
Right click ..enter : New DWORD
SORTOverrideFPSCaps ..........0
TRDenoise .............................0
DXVA_NOHDDECODE........................0
HD 2400:
With new Cyberlink patch and beta 7.6 ( in this thread) :
H.264 DXVA
1080 i MPEG2 DXVA >20 Mbit @ 9 % CPU
Hardwarechanges:
______________
Sapphire HD 2400
OC 560/460 by Rivatuner (don`t use ATI Overdrive ..doesn`t work correctly)
Seems directshow apps work now (MPClassic-WMP - DVBViewer) with H.264 and MPEG2 HD in Overlay and VMR 7 and EVR
with vector- and Motion adaptive deinterlacing.....
Sorry can`t test HDDVDs and BR ..waiting for a BR Burner @ 100Euros
Best
Mine (kudos go to DVL73 - arfster - sarvatt and others)
Attached Files
File Type: zip find.zip (36.1 KB, 191 views)
Κάντε τις ρυθμίσεις και κατεβάστε το αρχειάκι που δίνει, για να βρείτε το σωστό κλειδί στην registry!!!
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=872538&page=5
DL .. "findreg "
This little app will determine the right string of your HD 2400 pro
Regedit >HKEY _Local_Machine\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\
Now find the correspondent string that will look like this..... 68AACE4......
scroll down until you find :
DXVA_Only24FPS1080H264
DXVA_Only24FPS1080MPEG2
DXVA_Only24FPS1080VC1
change string from 1 to 0
__________
Right click ..enter : New DWORD
SORTOverrideFPSCaps ..........0
TRDenoise .............................0
DXVA_NOHDDECODE........................0
HD 2400:
With new Cyberlink patch and beta 7.6 ( in this thread) :
H.264 DXVA
1080 i MPEG2 DXVA >20 Mbit @ 9 % CPU
Hardwarechanges:
______________
Sapphire HD 2400
OC 560/460 by Rivatuner (don`t use ATI Overdrive ..doesn`t work correctly)
Seems directshow apps work now (MPClassic-WMP - DVBViewer) with H.264 and MPEG2 HD in Overlay and VMR 7 and EVR
with vector- and Motion adaptive deinterlacing.....
Sorry can`t test HDDVDs and BR ..waiting for a BR Burner @ 100Euros
Best
Mine (kudos go to DVL73 - arfster - sarvatt and others)
Attached Files
File Type: zip find.zip (36.1 KB, 191 views)
Κάντε τις ρυθμίσεις και κατεβάστε το αρχειάκι που δίνει, για να βρείτε το σωστό κλειδί στην registry!!!
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=872538&page=5