Canon 1DX Mark III

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ξέρει κάποιος τί είναι αυτό το φρούτο ? :

with the ability to capture stills in 10-bit using the HEIF (High Efficiency Image File) file format.

New CMOS sensor with 28% more resolution than the 1Dmk2

Δεν είναι ξεκάθαρο τι αισθητήρα θα φοράει , απο την επίσημη ανακοίνωση (όχι τα specs απο site προπαραγγελίας) διαβάζω :

When using the optical viewfinder the camera will use a new autofocus sensor, with approximately 28 times the resolution in the center of the EOS-1D X Mark II.

Επίσης διορθώνω τα νουμερα για τις ριπες που ανέφερα στο προηγούμενο μου post :

The camera will support significantly faster frame rates with full AF and AE, using either the optical viewfinder (up to approximately 16fps mechanical shutter) or Live View (up to approximately 20fps mechanical or electronic shutter)

The new 1DX Mark III will do focus tracking and exposure at 20 frames per second either way, mechanical or electronic shutter, with the mirror locked up.
 
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NassosT

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Κλασικά για άλλη μια μεγάλη διοργάνωση η Canon θα παίζει μπάλα μόνη της, όλο Canon θα βλέπουμε στους Ολυμπιακούς του χρόνου, βέβαια δεν περίμενα και κάτι διαφορετικό....εύκολα και με συνοπτικές διαδικασίες έδειξε τα δόντια της η Canon..άμα βγάλει και την αντίστοιχη με Ibis R σε mirrorless Νομίζω θα είναι Game over για τους υπόλοιπους. Ισως δούμε κάτι ενδιαφέρον από την Nikon, ο μόνος παίκτης που ίσως την τρομάξει....

Είναι σαν την πρωταθλήτρια ομάδα που όλοι προσπαθούν να την αποκαθηλώσουν και ξαφνικά δηλώνει παρόν και τους σαρώνει όλους.

Δεν είναι τόσο απλοϊκά τα πράγματα πλέον και σίγουρα δεν θα βλέπουμε όλο Canon στο Τοκυο. Το ποσοστό της όσο και αυτό της Nikon θα μειωθεί όσο ποτέ σε μεγάλη αθλητική διοργάνωση. Ήδη στο παγκόσμιο στίβου της Ντόχα η Σονυ είχε πολύ δυνατή παρουσία και πολύ καλές εντυπώσεις από όλους όσοι χρησιμοποιήσαν την Α9, η οποία μην ξεχνάμε ότι έχει αυτή τη στιγμή το κορυφαίο AF ανάμεσα στα υπάρχοντα pro σώματα.
Οι δε διαφορές στα χαρακτηριστικά της 1DXIII με την Α9ΙΙ δεν είναι τόσο κρίσιμες σε πραγματικές συνθήκες (μένει φυσικά να οριστικοποιηθούν και να τα δούμε και στην πράξη) γι' αυτούς που ήδη έχουν προσεγγιστεί από την Σονυ και την πολύ "επιθετική" πολιτική της προς τους επαγγελματίες των σπορ. Ζητούμενο νομίζω πλέον για Νικον και Κανον είναι να διατηρήσουν τους πελάτες τους με τα τελευταία - μάλλον - DSLR pro bodies τους.
 

Kosh

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Re: New Canon 1DX Mark III

Ενδιαφερον.

Να σκεφτονται να το χρησιμοποιησουν αραγε και στην ληψη βιντεο ?

Θυμιζω οτι η Eos 1DC ηταν η πρωτη υβριδικη που χρησιμοποιησε motion jpeg (χωρις σπουδαια αποτελεσματα βεβαια)
 

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Διέρευσαν τα τελικά τεχνικά χαρακτηριστικά, ο αισθητήρας παραμένει σε ανάλυση 20Mpx , αναλυτικά :

Canon EOS-1D X Mark III Major features

20.1mp
16fps/20fps
ISO 100-102,400
4K at 60p (No DPAF in 4K)
Dual CFexpress card slots

Canon EOS-1D X Mark III Full Specifications:

Digital single-lens reflex AF / AE camera
Memory Card: Dual CFexpress
Image sensor size: 35.9 x 23.9 mm
Lens mount: Canon EF Lens Family
* Except for EF-S lens and EF-M lens (effective field of view is almost the same as the effective field of view of the lens focal length)
Image Sensor Type: CMOS
Image Sensors Resolution: 20 million pixels
* Rounded to 100,000 units
Aspect ratio: 3: 2
Dust removal function
Auto / Manual, Dust Delete Data Attached
Record format: DCF 2.0
Image format
JPEG (8bit), HEIF (10bit), RAW (14bit Canon original)
RAW + JPEG simultaneous recording is possible
RAW + HEIF simultaneous recording possible
* 12-bit A / D conversion processing is applied to RAW images taken with the electronic shutter
Record Pixels
JPEG
L Approx. 20 million pixels (5472 × 3648)
M1 Approx.12.7 million pixels (4368 × 2912)
M2 Approx.8.9 million pixels (3648 × 2432)
S approximately 5 million pixels (2736 × 1824)
HEIF L Approx. 20 million pixels (5472 × 3648)
RAW RAW / C-RAW Approx. 20 million pixels (5472 × 3648)
Storage function: Still photo / video split, Still photo save option, Movie save option, Still photo save / playback, Save / play video
Create and select folder possible
Filename: Default setting, user setting 1, user setting 2
File number: Continuous, auto reset, manual reset
Image processing during shooting
Picture style
Auto, Standard, Portrait, Landscape, Fine Detail, Neutral, Faithful, Monochrome, User Def. 1–3
White balance
Auto (Atmosphere Priority), Auto (White Priority), Preset (Sunlight, Shade, Cloudy, Tungsten, White, Fluorescent light, flash),
User setting, color temperature setting (approximately 2500-10000 K)
White balance correction and white balance bracketing
Flash color temperature information can be sent
White balance correction
Blue / amber correction: ± 9 levels
Magenta / Green Correction: ± 9 Levels
White Balance Bracketing
± 3 stops in 1-stop increments
Automatic Image Brightness Correction
Auto brightness optimization
Noise reduction
Applicable for high ISO speed shots and long exposures
Highlight tone priority
Lens aberration correction
Peripheral Illumination Correction, Distortion Correction, Digital Lens Optimization, Chromatic Aberration Correction, Diffraction Correction
Viewfinder: Eye Level Pentaprism
Field of view (range): Approximately 100% of width / length (eye point approximately 20mm)
Magnification: 0.76x (-1m–1 with 50 mm lens at infinity)
Diopter: 20 mm (at eyepiece end / -1 m-1)
Diopter adjustment range: -3.0 – +1.0 m-1 (dpt)
Depth-of-field previewsupport
Auto focus [Viewfinder Shooting]
Focus method:TTL secondary imaging phase difference detection method (using dedicated AF sensor)
AF point: Up to 191 points (cross-type AF point: up to 155 points)
Number of available AF points, number of dual cross-type AF points and cross type AF
The number of points depends on the lens used.
Dual cross-type focusing at F2.8 with center AF point
Focus brightness range: EV -4 – 21 (F2.8 compatible center AF point, One-Shot AF, Room temperature, ISO 100)
Focus action: One-Shot AF, AI Servo AF, Manual Focus (MF)
AF area selection mode: Manual selection: Spot AF, Manual selection: 1 point AF, AF area extension: Landscape / Portrait, AF area extension: Surround,
Manual selection: Zone AF, Manual selection: Large zone AF, Auto selection AF
Subject Recognition AF
EOS iTR AF settings (color information, face and head can be identified)
iTR: Intelligent Tracking and Recognition
AF configuration tool Case 1 – 4, Case A
AI Servo AF Characteristics
Tracking Sensitivity, Acceleration / Deceleration Tracking
AF fine adjustment
AF Microadjustment (All lenses by same amount, Adjust by lens)
AF assist light
Flash from external flash for EOS camera
[Live View Shooting / Movie Recording]
Focus method
Dual Pixel CMOS AF
* AF is not available when recording RAW or 4K 59.94 p / 50.00 p (NTSC / PAL) movies.
AF method: Face + Tracking, Spot AF, 1 Point AF, AF Area Expansion (Horizontal / Vertical), AF Area Expansion: Ambient, Zone AF,
Large Zone AF: Vertical, Large Zone AF: Horizontal
Available AF Frame Position Up to 3,869 locations
* When selected with multi-controller
AF areas available for auto selection
Up to 525 points
Eye detection AF support
Magnified view: 5 times / 10 times
AF area
Horizontal: Approx. 90%, Vertical: Approx. 100%
Horizontal: Approx. 80%, Vertical: Approx. 80%
* Depends on the lens used.
Manual focus (MF)
MF peaking, focus guide
[Live View Shooting]
AF operation
One-Shot AF, Servo AF, Continuous AF possible
Focus brightness range: EV -6 – 18
(F1.2, center AF point, room temperature, ISO 100, One-Shot AF)
AF configuration tool: Case 1–4, Case A
Servo AF Characteristics
Tracking Sensitivity, Acceleration / Deceleration Tracking
[Record video]
Focus brightness range: EV -4 – 18
(f/1.2, center AF point, room temperature, ISO 100, One-Shot AF, 29.97 fps)
Video Servo AF support
Video Servo AF Characteristics
Tracking Sensitivity, AF Speed
Exposure control
Metering mode
Viewfinder shooting: 216-division (18×12) TTL using approximately 400,000-pixel RGB + IR metering sensor
Open metering
Live View shooting / Movie recording: 384 split (24×16) metering using signals from the image sensor
Metering mode
Viewfinder shooting:
Evaluative metering
Partial metering (approximately 6.2% of screen)
Spot metering (approximately 1.5% of screen)
* AF point-linked spot metering and multi-spot metering options included.
Center-weighted average metering
Live View shooting: Evaluative metering, partial metering (approximately 5.8% of the screen), spot metering (approximately 2.9% of the screen)
Video recording: center-weighted average metering, evaluative metering
* Automatically set according to shooting conditions.
Focus brightness range
Viewfinder shooting: EV 0 – 20 (room temperature, ISO 100)
Live View shooting / Movie recording: EV -3 – 20 (at room temperature, ISO 100)
Shooting mode
Taking still photos:
Program AE, Shutter-Priority AE, Aperture-Priority AE, Manual Exposure, Bulb
Exposure, Custom Shooting Mode
(C1 / C2 / C3)
Video recording:
Program AE, Shutter-Priority AE, Aperture-Priority AE, Manual Exposure,
Custom Shooting Mode (C1 / C2 / C3)
ISO sensitivity (recommended exposure index)
Taking still photos:
ISO Auto (automatic setting in the range of ISO 100 – 102400),
Manual setting in ISO 100 – 102400 range (in 1 / 3- or 1-stop increments), L (equivalent to ISO 50),
Sensitivity extended to H1 (equivalent to ISO 204800), H2 (equivalent to ISO 409600), and H3 (equivalent to ISO 819200)
possible
* When highlight tone priority setting: ISO 200 – 102400
Video recording:
Program AE / Av / Tv: ISO Auto (automatically set within the range of ISO 100 – 25600), H1 (ISO 204800 equivalent)
M: ISO Auto (automatically set within the range of ISO 100 – 25600),
Manual setting in ISO 100 – 25600 (in 1 / 3- or 1-stop increments), H1 (ISO 204800
Sensitivity can be extended
* When highlight tone priority setting: ISO 200 – 25600
ISO sensitivity settings
Taking still photos:
SO speed setting range, auto range, minimum shutter speed
Video recording:
ISO sensitivity setting range, automatic maximum value
Exposure compensation
Manual: ± 5 stops in 1 / 3- or 1 / 2-stop increments (viewfinder shooting),
± 3 stops in 1 / 3- or 1 / 2-stop increments (Live View shooting, movie recording)
AEB: ± 3 stops in 1 / 3- or 1 / 2-stop increments (can be combined with manual exposure compensation)
AE lock
Still photo shooting:
Auto: AE lock with Custom Function when focus is achieved in each metering mode can be set on / off
Manual: using the AE lock button
Movie recording: using the AE lock button
Flicker Reduction
Available (when viewfinder shooting)
Multiple exposure
Function / operation priority, continuous shooting priority
Multiple exposures: 2 – 9 times
Multiple exposure control
Increase, average, brighten, darken
HDR shooting (still picture HDR PQ)
Record format
HEIF
Bit depth
10bit
Color sampling
YCbCr 4: 2: 2
HDR specification
ITU-R BT.2100 (PQ)
Electronically controlled focal plane shutter
Shutter method
Viewfinder shooting: mechanical
Live View shooting: mechanical, electronic curtain, electronic
Mechanical / electronic curtains: 1/8000 sec – 30 sec, bulb
Electronic setting: 1/8000 sec – 0.5 sec
Maximum shutter speed during flash synchronization: 1/250 sec.
* The setting range is different for movie recording.
Drive modes: Single shot, high speed continuous shooting, medium speed continuous shooting, low speed continuous shooting, one soft shooting, soft continuous shooting
Shooting, soft low-speed continuous, self-timer: 10 seconds, self-timer: 2 seconds
Continuous shooting speed: One-Shot AF up to approx. 16 shots / sec
(Setting range: 3-16 sheets / sec)
Up to approx. 20 shots / sec
AI Servo AF / Servo AF
Medium speed continuous shooting: One-Shot AF Approx. 10 shots / sec
(Setting range: 2-15 sheets / sec)
Approx. 10 shots / sec. * 3
AI Servo AF / Servo AF
Time lapse
One-Shot AF Approx.3.0 shots / sec
(Setting range: 1-14 sheets / second)
Approx.3.0 sheets / sec
AI Servo AF / Servo AF
Soft continuous shooting
8.0 shots / sec
(Setting range: 2-8 sheets / second)
Approx. 10 shots / sec. * 3
 

Skywriter55

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Re: New Canon 1DX Mark III

Τελικά 20 αντί για 24mp.Άραγε να έβαλαν νέο αισθητήρα ή μπα;

Δε γινόταν να μην κόψει κάτι
AF is not available when recording RAW or 4K 59.94 p / 50.00 p (NTSC / PAL) movies.
 

evanfotis

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Πώς ειναι δυνατόν να μήν έχει PDAF σε 4Κ?
 

Kosh

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Re: New Canon 1DX Mark III

Επομενη εβδομαδα μαλλον εχουμε παρουσιαση και τιμες.

Συνοπτικα τα κυρια specs που εχουν διαρρευσει :

20.1MP resolution sensor
16 fps (20 fps in Liveview)
Up to 5.4K (5472 × 2886) internal RAW video recording
No crop in 4K or RAW recording
Autofocus not available when recording RAW or 4K/60p
191 AF points (155 cross-type) in DSLR mode
Liveview AF focuses at -6EV, PDAF with optical viewfinder focuses at -4EV
No Dual Pixel AF when shooting 4K 60p or RAW video
ISO 100-102,400 (819,200 extended)
Dual CFexpress card slots
RAW Buffer: 1,000+
RAW + JPEG Large buffer: 1,000+
RAW + HEIF Large buffer: approx. 350
Price: $6,499


Wow, a 1000+ buffer on RAW shooting! But no DPAF at 4K/60p. Bummer. Also, it should now be sure that IBIS will not be on board.

Announcement next week during CES 2020

https://www.canonwatch.com/canon-eo...-next-week-price-and-all-the-important-specs/
 

evanfotis

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https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-eos-1-d-x-iii-review/2
the 1D X III includes the ability to capture 5.5K/60p 12-bit Raw video internally to a CFExpress card.
you need to enable a cropped 4K/60p or drop to 30p if you want Dual Pixel AF while shooting
EOS1DXIII_MovieSettings.jpeg


https://youtu.be/5PnxXEn8CsQ

https://youtu.be/u2ccu7ArwBA


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Kosh

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Re: New Canon 1DX Mark III

Δειτε ολο το βιντεο αυτο ......δεν νομιζω οτι εχω ξαναδει ποτε μου καλυτερο promotion video για επαγγελματικη καμερα.
 

karamela

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θελουμε ολ αυτα, συν IBIS, σπαστη οθονη, συν 4κ 60p compressed raw με AF σε ενα μικρο , ελαφρυ και φτηνο σωμα mirroless ....! :p

Και όλα αυτά με τιμή που να είναι το πολύ 500-600 ευρώ!!χαχα

Πέρα από την πλάκα η μηχανή αυτή απευθύνεται καθαρά σε επαγγελματίες φωτογράφους σοβαρούς μάλιστα, εμείς απλά εδώ την σχολιάζουμε και περνάμε την ώρα μας, ούτε θα την πιάσουμε ποτέ στο χέρι μας.

Υ.Γ. Μπαταρία με αντοχή 3.000 λήψεις αυτά είναι!!!
 

evanfotis

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Kαπου διάβασα δεν είναι πραγματικό raw που δίνει στο βίντεο. 150MBS, ούτε wb κλπ..
 
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Κάνει κάποιου είδους συμπίεση , όλες άλλωστε κάνουν.
Δες πχ την bm 4k πώς καταφέρνει να έχει raw και σε sd card.

Ας μας το έδιναν αυτό σε mirrorless και μας έφτανε (και μας περίσσευε)