Group Test 46'' TVs

-Γιώργος-

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Sharp LC-46X8E

Plus points: Amazing price, great looks, extremely sharp HD pictures
Minus points: Average black levels, some colour tone issues, a little motion judder, soft standard definition pictures
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Samsung 46A656

Plus points: Lovely design, good HD pictures, great connectivity
Minus points: Standard def images are a bit noisy, pictures aren't quite as bright and colourful as the best LCDs
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LG 47LG7000

Plus points:
Excellent pictures, pretty design, packed with features, not expensive all things considered
Minus points: Room for improvement with black levels, Bluetooth functionality feels a bit gimmicky, its chassis is quite large by today's standards
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Panasonic TH-46PZ85

Plus points: Mostly terrific pictures, fair price considering the quality on offer, lots of good image processing
Minus points: Intelligent Frame Creation can cause artefacts if not used sparingly, occasionally some red colours look a little orange
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Final verdict
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The most striking general point that came to light during this 46-47in group test is the fact that each of our four featured TVs can be bought for under £1,300 - more evidence of just how fast TV prices are continuing to fall, especially in the mid-to-large screen size part of the market. That said, as comfortably the cheapest TV in this group test, the Sharp LC-46X8E unfortunately suggests that if you take the price cutting too far, you perhaps still end up compromising performance standards a bit too much for comfort. Especially when you consider that any weaknesses in a TV's picture 'engine' are going to be pretty ruthlessly exposed on a screen as large as 46in.
Rather more of a surprise is the fact that our Samsung entry in this group test only ends up in third place. Other A656 models have tended to win top honours in previous group tests, but somehow Samsung's generally excellent LCD standards just don't manage to stretch up to the 46in level as successfully as we would have hoped. Either that, or the competition has stepped up its game.
Another surprise, to be honest, is the presence of LG's 47LG7000 in silver medal position. It's not been often in recent times that LG has managed to get the better of its Korean neighbour, but even though its highlight Bluetooth feature is a bit of a gimmick, the sheer picture quality of the 47LG7000 really is good enough to push Samsung into third.
In fact, the 47LG7000 very nearly did enough to bag the gold medal. But ultimately the extra black level accuracy, superb image processing and slightly better standard definition performance of the Panasonic 46PZ85 ensures that not for the first time with a big-screen group test, the day belongs to plasma rather than LCD technology.

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http://www.avreview.co.uk/news/article/mps/UAN/2399/v/3/sp/


 

Yperion

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Δεν εχει νοημα το συγκριτικο οταν απουσιαζει η Sony 46W4500 που ειναι μια κλαση ανωτερη απο ολες τις παραπανω.

Εκτος και δεν την εβαλαν επειδη ειναι εκτος συναγωνισμου.:D
 

Yperion

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Having been very impressed with the previous Sony TV to come our way, the KDL-40W4000, I had very high hopes for the 52W4500. And at first it looked as if all those hopes were going to be fulfilled. With knobs on.

The picture is spectacularly bright, for a start, blazing off the screen with an intensity that reminds us in no uncertain terms of LCD's traditional advantage over plasma in this department.

Colours are extremely vivid too, with rich saturations and bold tones. Yet a combination of fine blends and a wide colour palette ensures that for the majority of the time all this vividness does not result in unnatural, over-aggressive tones.

More good news concerns the 52W4500's fine detail presentation. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that the pristine HD image of No Country For Old Men on Blu-ray has never looked sharper on a big-screen TV except, possibly, for Philips' latest Perfect Pixel sets.

Seriously, the precision with which the set portrays the very finest of details in a picture, such as stubble, facial pores, strands of hair and even the weave in clothing is nothing short of mesmerising. If for some reason you're not convinced by the whole HD thing yet, watch a good Blu-ray on the 52W4500 and you'll wonder how you ever lived without HD for so long.


Η κριτικη ειναι διθυραμβικη παντως.

Στο Γερμανικο περιοδικο "Video" η 46W4500 Πηρε την ιδια βαθμολογια με την Pioneer LX5090...

http://www.testberichte.de/p/sony-tests/bravia-kdl-46-w-4500-testbericht.html

Προφανως μετραει και η χαμηλότερη τιμη βεβαια.-bye-
 

czoun

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European Best Value LCD-TV.........Samsung LE40A557/577

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European Best Value Plasma-TV.....Panasonic VIERA TH-46PZ85

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European Green TV......................JVC LT-42DS9

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European LCD-TV........................Philips 42PFL9803

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European Plasma-TV.......................Pioneer KURO PDP-LX6090

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Υ.Γ.: Δεν ξέρω όταν δόθηκαν τα βραβεία αν είχε κυκλοφορήσει η νέα σειρά της SONY και κατά πόσο είναι αντικειμενικά τα κριτήρια επιλογής...:nounder:...μην αρχίσετε να βαράτε.
 

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Yperion

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Και πιο πάνω από τις Sony, Pioneer ήταν δύο Loewe στις 37'' και 42'' :eek:

Προφανως λογω εξοπλισμου , νομιζω κατι λενε για ενσωματωμενο σκληρο , κορυφαιο ηχο κτλ.

Μην ξεχναμε οτι η Loewe ειναι Γερμανικη οποτε θα υπαρχει και η σχετικη υποστηριξη.-bye-
 

czoun

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Ο δαίμων του τυπογραφείου....στο παραπάνω post μου, οι φωτογραφίες από Samsung και Philips, είναι ανάποδα βαλμένες...:BDBDG54:
 

underdog

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Γιάννη δεν νομίζω να προκύπτει αναμφισβήτητα από πουθενά ότι η W είναι μια κλάση πάνω από τις προαναφερθείσες...αν ήταν έτσι τότε η Χ τί είναι, διαγαλαξιακός πρωταθλητής;
 

Yperion

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Γιάννη δεν νομίζω να προκύπτει αναμφισβήτητα από πουθενά ότι η W είναι μια κλάση πάνω από τις προαναφερθείσες...αν ήταν έτσι τότε η Χ τί είναι, διαγαλαξιακός πρωταθλητής;

Η X4500 ειναι αντιπαλος των Pioneer Κuro σειρα 9.

Δεν νομιζω οτι καμια απο τις παραπανω πλησιαζει την 4500 η τις Kuro.-bye-
 

JoeBar

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Εγώ πάντως πέρα από την αγάπη του Γιάννη για την W4500, έχω να πω οτί μου έκανε θετική εντύπωση η μεγαλύτερη βαθμολογία που πήρε η LG7000 από την Α656.
 

tromb1

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Re: Απάντηση: Re: Group Test 46'' TVs

Μπορει να γελας αλλα ακριβως ετσι ειναι...-bye-
Μα πάντοτε βρε παιδιά έτσι ήταν.... !!!

Οι plasma σε σχεση με τις LCD ειχαν ΠΑΝΤΑ μεγαλυτερο value for money, γιατι προσφερουν πολυ καλυτερη εικονα (και περισσοτερες ιντζες καποιες φορες) με λιγοτερα χρηματα....

Αυτο ισχυει και στις φτηνες και στις ακριβες σειρές....:grandpa:
 

Yperion

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Re: Απάντηση: Re: Group Test 46'' TVs

Ο πολυς ο κοσμος στην πλεοψηφια του βλεπει ακομη SD και εκει οι φθηνες plasma προσφερουν πολυ καλυτερη εικονα απο τις αντιστοιχων τιμων LCD.

Aπο εκει και περα υπαρχουν LCD που δειχνουν εξισου καλα σε SD και ακομη καλυτερα σε HD αλλα κοστιζουν...-bye-