-LG TV Line-up 2019-

JL_?

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Re: Απάντηση: -LG TV Line-up 2019-

88" γιατι δεν βγαζουν. ?

Στάλθηκε από το LG-H815 μου χρησιμοποιώντας Tapatalk

Όντως περίεργο. Οι υπάρχουσες γραμμές παραγωγής είναι 8,5ης γενιάς χωρίς υποστήριξη mmg (multi-model glass) και έχουν motherglass 2,2x2,5 μετρά. Με αυτές τις διαστάσεις μπορεί να δώσει:
α) έξι 55άρες
β) τρεις 65άρες
γ) δύο 77άρες
δ) δύο 88άρες
ε) δύο 99άρες
στ) μία 112,5"

Χμμμ... Μάλλον συμφέρουν τελικά οι 99" αντί των 88" και 77"... :eating:
 

papasouzakias

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Οι νέες σειρές OLED της LG θα έχουν 30% μειωμένες τιμές σε σχέση με τις περσινές σειρές.


Όπως ανακοινώθηκε σε συνέντευξη τύπου η LG θα ακολουθήσει επιθετική πολιτική στη τιμολόγηση των νέων σειρών τηλεοράσεών της για το 2019.

Οι μειώσεις των τιμών θα είναι 30% για τις OLED και 20% για τις συμβατικές LCD της εταιρείας.

H 55B9 αναμένεται να λανσαριστεί κάτω από τα 2.000 δολλάρια ενώ η 77C9 κάτω από τα 7.000 δολλάρια.

Ενδεικτικές τιμές από www.bhphotovideo.com

55C9 - 2.496$
65C9 - 3.496$
77C9 - 6.996$
55E9 - 3.296$
65E9 - 4.296$
65W9- 5.996$


H LG αναμένει πως η ζήτηση για τις OLED τηλεοράσεις θα αυξηθεί από τα 3,6 εκ. αυτού του χρόνου, σε 7 εκ. το 2020 και 10 εκ. το 2021.


Οι βελτιώσεις των νέων σειρών της LG περιλαμβάνουν:

HDMI 2.1 for up to 4K at 120 frames per second via HDMI

HDMI eARC port

Βελτιωμένο αντιανακλαστικό φίλτρο

Upgraded black frame insertion system called ’OLED Motion Pro’ that now operates at 100/120Hz with shorter black frame cycle (25% vs. 50% last year).

Separate ”smooth gradation” picture setting that no longer reduces resolution

HDMI VRR (Variable Refresh Rate)

HDMI ALLM (Automatic Low Latency Mode)

13 ms input lag (in 1080p and 4K HDR)

Amazon Alexa in the 2019 models

Apple AirPlay 2 and Apple HomeKit


Οι νέες σειρές της LG αναμένεται να κυκλοφορήσουν αυτή την εβδομάδα σε Νότια Κορεά και Αμερική.


http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20190306000685
https://www.trustedreviews.com/news/lgs-oled-nanocell-tvs-sale-us-korea-3671400
 

georget

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Έτσι να πέφτει η 77άρα. Αν και ώσπου περνα ο καιρός μας φαίνεται και αυτή μικρή. Θα θέλουμε σίγουρα 88" η 99"! :smile:
 

papasouzakias

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Η LG θα ξεκινήσει τη παραγωγή 48 ιντσών 4Κ OLED καθώς και 65 και 77 ιντσών 8Κ OLED.


Η παραγωγή τους αναμένεται να ξεκινήσει στα τέλη του 2019

Επίσης μαζί με τις Wallpaper και Rollable OLEDs η LG θα προσθέσει Crystal Sound OLEDs και Transparent OLEDs



lgdisplayoledplans2019.jpg


https://www.oled-info.com/lg-plans-release-48-oled-tvs-future
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1551936748
 

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Πρώτες εντυπώσεις της Value Electronics μετά το καλιμπράρισμα της LG 77C9


I took scans of the set OOTB then manually calibrated ISF Bright with the default settings which results in approximately 255 nits. I calibrated ISF Bright because these sets are on display in the showroom and need the Bright Picture Mode.

My preliminary opinions:


1) LG improved motion handling for 2019 and now the set provides BFI which has three settings, Low, Medium and High. I found if you set it to Low, you get only slight dimming of the picture, no flashing and really good motion. Overall a nice improvement.


2) The set we got was very good calibration wise. I feel the gray scale controls on the 2019 may be slightly finer than previous LG OLEDs BUT now you have a choice of 2pt, 10pt and 22pt gray scale adjustments. In the 22pt they added two additional IRE controls at 2.5 and 7.5 which enable you to make more low IRE adjustments to get better blacks. You will need to use the CM levels editor to create a new series to calibrate in this mode.


3) Although the CMS controls all worked, it was very hard to get the CMS lined up but it could have been an issue with this specific panel. With this particular set a new Autocal 3D LUT, or even a matrix would have corredted this. The good news is all the SDR CMS controls appear to work without causing artifacts but as always, you want to keep adjustments to a minimum.


4) There is also a new feature called Peak Luminance in the Expert controls. You can set it to Low, Medium and High. From what I now understand it boosts the peak luminance using the white sub-pixel. If you go from Off to High, the SDR picture gets brighter and it looks like there is more contrast but it also lifts the black level slightly, visible with dark content. Neil Robinson says in the CES video that the most color accurate setting is OFF for SDR. For HDR it's set to HIGH.


5) I couldn't find any controls to enable the internal TPG so i'm not sure if it's enabled yet or this is something you need CM to turn on. I believe there will be new firmware enabling the feature soon.


6) HDR looked good and the peak luminance read 861 nits, with a 10% window. This is the brightest OLED panel I've ever measured. I don't have the new CM for 2019 so I couldn't test any of the new tone mapping options. Although I didn't calibrate HDR, it looks like LG is still overdriving HDR because the colors still look a little oversaturated. I'll have to see how it looks once i'm able to autocal HDR with the new process that Neil Robinson described at CES.


7) I didn't have time to look a DV but DV content looked fine.


8) The set came with Web OS 4.5. LG moved all the menus to the left side, a little more streamlined than the old WebOS.


9) The 2019 comes with eARC and VRR and a couple of other gamming features. Robert Zohn said there is a HDMI 2.1 port or ports but I have no idea how functional they are beyond what LS has reported and if they are 48 MB ports.


After calibrating the set and looking at content, the 2019 is definetly a step up in PQ vs the 2018 when compared side by side with the same content. The picture quality was nice and sharp, near blacks were perfect, motion was good, colors were accurate to the calibrated Sony's right next to it. BUT in my opinion the picture doesn't have as much POP, (highlights) as the A9F probably because of the A9F's pixel booster in SDR.

I didn't measure the color volume but i'll bet the Sony is still much higher accounting for this observation. I also needed to turn the Peak Luminance control to High to make the C9 look as close as possible to the A9F even though it's set to Off by default.

HDR on the other hand looks better than ever. Really bright and vibrant but you get the feeling that the picture is a little “over done” since the colors, in my opinion, were a little oversaturated. Once I’m able to calibrate HDR, we will be able to take another look.

My preliminary impression, the 2019 LG C9 is a “significant improvement” over the 2018 LG C8 although it’s reported to be using the same panel but with the new Alpha9 processer. When I say significant, everything is relative. The 2018 LG OLED was an excellent set and the improvements for 2019 make it that much better. HDR is definetly brighter, motion is still not quite as good as the Sony, but with BFI it gets really, really close. Upscaling is improved and i didn’t notice any unusual artifacts and or noise in the picture which was sharp and crisp.

I'm very interested to see the PQ after using Calman Autocal to see if the result is any better with all the new finetuning LG apparently did. There is no question that LG seems to be pushing the panel "harder" this year to get more brightness but that could be at the expense of greater possibility of burn in.

The logo protector is set to High at default vs Low in the 2018 sets.

Some may want to know if it “blows away” the Sony A9F? in my opinion, no, but the two sets are so close with the LG giving a brighter HDR picture and having additional gaming features, that you can’t go wrong with either set.


Pre Calibration SDR

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Pre Calibration HDR

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Πηγη: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-...user-settings-no-price-talk.html#post57764872
 

papasouzakias

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LG 2019 workshop for reviewers


Everything different from 2018 to 2019 in LG’s TV lineup in one chart

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Deep Learning Algorithm

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HDR Signal Process

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Nano Accuracy Importance of angle

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Viewing Test OLED vs Q-LED

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New Spears and Munsil 4K HDR benchmark disc

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Capability settings for TVs, players etc. Every pattern is available in 600, 1000, 2000, 4000 and 10,000 nits

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Πηγή: https://twitter.com/dkatzmaier
 

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LG Electronics (LGE) reveals pricing for 2019 C9, E9 & W9 OLED TVs - C9 starting at $2500...https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1552901822


LG 2019 OLED TVs pricing & availability:

C9 LG OLED TVs

55" OLED55C9 - $2,499 (available in April)
65" OLED65C9 - $3,499 (available in April)
77" OLED77C9 - $6,999 (available in May)


E9 LG OLED TVs (glass)

55" OLED55E9 - $3,299 (available in June)
65" OLED65E9 - $4,299 (available in April)


W9 LG SIGNATURE OLED TVs (wallpaper)

65" OLED65W9 - $6,999 (available in June)
77" OLED77W9 - $12,999 (available in June)

source:[flatpanelshd.com via LG USA]


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LG Electronics (LGE) pricing for 2019 C9, E9 & W9 OLED TVs (German market):

The OLED B9 based on the Alpha 7 Gen 2 processor is expected to be commercially available during the summer.

Prices and availability:

OLED77W9 from May 2019 for 12,999 euros
OLED65W9 from May 2019 for 6,999 euros

OLED65E9 from April 2019 for 3,999 euros
OLED55E9 from April 2019 for 2,999 euros

OLED77C9 from April 2019 for 7,999 euros
OLED65C9 from April 2019 for 3,499 euros

OLED55C9 from April 2019 for 2,499 euros


source:[areadvd.de]

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LG Electronics (LGE) announces pricing for 2019 "NanoCell" 4K LCD TVs...https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1553070122

...its new high-end LCD models that will be sold as "NanoCell" TVs. The company explains that it uses IPS LCD panels with "nano particles to absorb unwanted light wavelengths"...

...SM9500 and SM9000 will feature ‛FALD Pro’ and ‛FALD’...


LG "NanoCell" LCD TVs - pricing & availability:

LG SM9500
65" 65SM9500PUA - $2,699 (available in April)

LG SM9070
86" 86SM9070PUA - $4,299 (available in June)
75" 75SM9070PUA - $2,899 (available in May)

LG SM9000
65" 65SM9000PUA - $1,999 (available in April)
55" 55SM9000PUA - $1,399 (available in April)

LG SM8670
75" 75SM8670PUA - $2,199 (available in April)

LG SM8600
65" 65SM8600PUA - $1,499 (available in April)
55" 55SM8600PUA - $999 (available in April)
49" 49SM8600PUA - $799 (available in April)

LG SM8100
65" 65SM8100AUA - $1,199 (available in June)
55" 55SM8100AUA - $899 (available in June)

source:[flatpanelshd.com via LG USA]

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Prices and availability LGE 2019 "NanoCell" 4K LCD TVs (German market):


65SM98007LA from May 19 for 2,299 euros
55SM98007LA from May 19 for 1,699 euros

75SM9000PLA from May 19 for 2,999 euros
65SM90107LA from April 19 for 1,999 euros
55SM90107LA from May 19 for 1,499 euros
49SM90007LA from May 19 for 1,199 euros

75SM8610PLA from May 19 for 2,499 euros
65SM86007LA from April 19 for 1,799 euros
55SM86007LA from April 19 for 1,299 euros
49SM86007LA from April 19 for 1,099 euros

65SM8500PLA from May 19 for 1,699 euros
55SM8500PLA from May 19 for 1,199 euros
49SM8500PLA from May 19 for 999 euros

65SM82007LA from May 19 for 1,499 euros
55SM82007LA from May 19 for 999 euros

source:[areadvd.de]
 

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LG Electronics 2019 TV preview ...https://nl.hardware.info/reviews/9173/lg-2019-tv-preview-kleine-maar-fijne-verbeteringen

μετάφραση google nl to en


New 2019 OLED panels !?...by LG Display WOLED-CF design/architecture,bottom emission

... A direct comparison in which we were able to view the pixel structure of a 55-inch C8 and a 55-inch C9 through a loupe shows that the sub-pixel structure of the new C9 is indeed slightly different from that of last year's C8. The white subpixels now have a small hook at the bottom left and the blue element also has a slightly changed shape. So we don't know why LG Display has made these changes, but we understand that the new televisions with equal brightness may be slightly more energy efficient than their predecessors, so that could be part of the answer. The moment we receive the first 2019 OLED televisions in our test lab, we will try to provide more clarity about possible differences with the 2018 panels.
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Left: 2018 OLED panel (LG 55C8). Right: 2019 OLED panel (LG 55C9)


source:[nl.hardware.info]
 

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LG 65R9 Rollable TV: Περίπου 55.000 Euro


Η τηλεόραση άναψε τα περισσότερα φλας στην φετινή CES2019, η τυλιχτή ΟLED 65 ιντσών της LG άρχισε να παρουσιάζεται στα διάφορα event στην Ευρώπη, γεγονός που δείχνει ότι δεν θα αργήσει να εμφανιστεί και στην αγορά.

Η τηλεόραση ξεδιπλώνει προβάλλοντας από τη βάση-έπιπλο μέσα σε 15 δευτερόλεπτα.

Η LG 65R9 είναι η πρώτη συσκευή αναδιπλούμενης οθόνης, πριν από τα κινητά Samsung Galaxy Fold και Huawei Mate X κινητά.

Με το πάτημα ενός πλήκτρου μέσα από το έπιπλο βγαίνει μια τηλεόραση OLED 65 ιντσών. Oνομάζεται και Rollable TV η 65R9 της LG που δεν είναι απλά μια επίδειξη τεχνολογίας, αλλά ένα τελικό προϊόν.

Το έπιπλο μέσα στο οποίο τυλίγεται η οθόνη έχει επένδυση από αλουμίνιο και λειτουργεί ως μια τεράστια ηχομπάρα 4.2 ηχείων ισχύος 100W με σύστημα Dolby Atmos.

Όλη η πρόσοψη του επίπλου είναι καλυμμένη από ύφασμα Kvadrat. Εκτός από την πλήρη έκταση της οθόνης, όταν δηλαδή είναι εντελώς ανοιχτή, υπάρχει και η λειτουργία όπου αυτή παρουσιάζεται ελάχιστα έξω το έπιπλο για να δείξει τον καιρό, την ώρα ή το άλμπουμ όταν παίζει η 65R9 μόνο μουσική.

Εσωτερικά η οθόνη OLED τυλίγεται σαν ρολό και παρουσιάζεται εμπρός μας ως μια επίπεδη, πλήρως τεντωμένη επιφάνεια, μέσα σε 15 δευτερόλεπτα.

Η τιμή της; Κοντά στα 55.000 ευρώ…







http://www.hxoseikona.gr/nea/7072-lg-65r9-rollable-tv.html
 

Gal'en

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Νταξει, καλα ειναι. Ησυχασα!
Εγω φοβομουν μην ειχε κανα 60αρι και αντε να την παρεις μετα...
 

Werewolf

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Δεν ξερω αν εχει παρακριβα υλικα μεσα ή επειδη ειναι και η μοναδικη, αποφασισε αυτη την οικονομικη πολιτικη.

Καταλαβαμε παντως πως αποφασισαν να προοριζουν τις roled σε κροισους.
Σε αυτους που εχουν παρα πολλα χρηματα και για το styling και μονο, θα αγορασουν μια τηλεοραση αναδιπλουμενη.

Ας βαλουν λιγα χρηματα τις φλατ 77-88 ...και τις πιτα γυρο ας τις παρουν οι "δεν εχω που να φαω τα λεφτα μου".
 

georget

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OK είναι premium προϊόν αλλα όχι τόσο premium. Τρελή τιμή από την LG.
Εμενα αν με έβαζαν να επιλέξω μεταξύ αυτής η της 77αράς θα επέλεγα την 77" και ας μην είναι Rollable.
 

JL_?

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Με την 65W9 να ξεκινάει στα 7 χιλιάρικα, μου φαίνεται περίεργο η R9 να παίζει 8 φορές πάνω. Για να δούμε...
 

papasouzakias

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LG OLED 2019: Στα 12,8 ms το input lag


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Τα 12,8 ms επιτεύχθηκαν με την ενεργοποίηση του Auto Low Latency Mode (ALLM) που διαθέτουν τα φετινά μοντέλα της LG χωρίς να είναι αναγκαία η ενεργοποίηση του Game mode. Η συγκεκριμένη τηλεόραση στην οποία έγινε το τεστ είναι η LG OLED65C9.


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www.lesnumeriques.com/tv-televiseur/labo-tv-lg-oled-2019-televiseur-parfait-pour-jeu-video-n85419.html
 

Werewolf

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Δεν θελουμε χαμηλο lag.
Γέροι ανθρωποι ειμαστε που δεν παιζουν παιχνιδια.
Θελουμε -30% πτωση τιμων που υποσχεθηκαν και δεν τηρησαν. :D