Ειναι εξάρτηση το high end ? Και πότε πρέπει κάποιος να μπει σε κλινική αποτοξίνωσης?
Οταν αρχίζει και πουλαέι τα ασημικά της μάνας του?
Οταν αρχίζει και πουλαέι τα ασημικά της μάνας του?
Ειναι πρέζα το high end?
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Από link που δίνει ο Δ. Παναγιωτίδης σε άλλο post ("ΞΑΝΑΧΟΥΜΕ ΘΕΜΑ.TRENDS AUDIO TA-10.1 ΕΝΙΣΧΥΤΗΣ", αλλά δεν έχει σημασία το θέμα):
... I know a number of musicians. Let me single out a violinist conductor, a concert pianist and a piano duo. All these musicians are still active and in the prime of their careers teaching, performing and recording. None of these people own a 'decent' HiFi system by our standard, or by any standard for that matter. Yet they can tell the smallest detail in tonal shadings and nuance in musical interpretation. My violinist conductor friend has such a busy schedule that the only time he listens to recordings (other than in recording studios) is while he's driving. The piano duo is a married couple emigrated from the Ukraine many years ago, bringing with them their prized collection of Russian LPs unknown to the western world. I had the privilege of listening to a few on their very humble pick-up and receiver setup. Once we were comparing a number of recordings of Liszt's Sonata in B minor made by various pianists. As guided by my hosts' insights into the interpretations, I began to hear what they could hear even on such a Lo-Fi system. That's what I call golden ears. The other pianist friend Gloria Saarinen has a proud discography of 20 CDs or so, from solo works, vocal accompanist to chamber music. Recently she came to my place to test-run her new recordings. I was amazed by how well she was able to tell the subtleties between different mixes. That's what I call a golden ear. Yet, at home, all she has is a simple, mass-market audio system of outdated technology. I have better gear but she has better ears. How embarrassing. Again, please don't get me wrong. I have no intention to snub audiophiles. I just couldn't stress enough the importance of music over equipment. We often say a piece of equipment is involving and another is not. But the real question is whether you are willing to let yourself get involved or not. It is the music that involves, not the tight bass or the soundstage and definitely not the equipment. Let your ears be music-trained, not equipment-trained. The best way to do that is, like my music friends, through some humble equipment. For too long, we've let the price tags of equipment lead us into an insatiable quest for the Holy Grail. After all, it's human nature that if you spend thousands and thousands of dollars, you expect to hear tighter bass, a bigger soundstage and more. But once you are able to listen 'poor' and take the price factor out of equation, you will be free from the audiophile syndrome. You'll be surprised that the lower the price, the easier and quicker the music resurfaces. ...
:SFGSFGSF:
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... I know a number of musicians. Let me single out a violinist conductor, a concert pianist and a piano duo. All these musicians are still active and in the prime of their careers teaching, performing and recording. None of these people own a 'decent' HiFi system by our standard, or by any standard for that matter. Yet they can tell the smallest detail in tonal shadings and nuance in musical interpretation. My violinist conductor friend has such a busy schedule that the only time he listens to recordings (other than in recording studios) is while he's driving. The piano duo is a married couple emigrated from the Ukraine many years ago, bringing with them their prized collection of Russian LPs unknown to the western world. I had the privilege of listening to a few on their very humble pick-up and receiver setup. Once we were comparing a number of recordings of Liszt's Sonata in B minor made by various pianists. As guided by my hosts' insights into the interpretations, I began to hear what they could hear even on such a Lo-Fi system. That's what I call golden ears. The other pianist friend Gloria Saarinen has a proud discography of 20 CDs or so, from solo works, vocal accompanist to chamber music. Recently she came to my place to test-run her new recordings. I was amazed by how well she was able to tell the subtleties between different mixes. That's what I call a golden ear. Yet, at home, all she has is a simple, mass-market audio system of outdated technology. I have better gear but she has better ears. How embarrassing. Again, please don't get me wrong. I have no intention to snub audiophiles. I just couldn't stress enough the importance of music over equipment. We often say a piece of equipment is involving and another is not. But the real question is whether you are willing to let yourself get involved or not. It is the music that involves, not the tight bass or the soundstage and definitely not the equipment. Let your ears be music-trained, not equipment-trained. The best way to do that is, like my music friends, through some humble equipment. For too long, we've let the price tags of equipment lead us into an insatiable quest for the Holy Grail. After all, it's human nature that if you spend thousands and thousands of dollars, you expect to hear tighter bass, a bigger soundstage and more. But once you are able to listen 'poor' and take the price factor out of equation, you will be free from the audiophile syndrome. You'll be surprised that the lower the price, the easier and quicker the music resurfaces. ...
:SFGSFGSF:
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DIPIE
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- 13 July 2007
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Κουβέντα να ξαναμαναγίνεται...
Είναι όσο είναι κι όλα τ' άλλα χόμπυ-χωρίς μάλιστα εκεί να υπάρχει σαν βασικό ζητούμενο η απόλαυση της ευγενέστερης έκφρασης τέχνης.Της μουσικής.
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Macmod
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Δεν ειναι μονο πρεζα, ειναι (συχνα) κι απωλεια στοχου, αν ο στοχος ειναι η μουσικη απολαυση.
Ποσοι απο μας παραδεχονται ξεκαθαρα πως δεν τους νοιαζει η μουσικη απολαυση, αλλα η βελτιωση των συρριστικων ή της εικονας;
Ποσοι απο μας παραδεχονται πως το υπερεγω τους απαιτει οχι κατ' αναγκη καλυτερα, αλλα σιγουρα ακριβοτερα μηχανακια απο του γειτονα;
Μακαριοι οσοι μπορουν εν γνωσει τους να κρατουν ισορροπιες και να ξεχωριζουν/συνδυαζουν τον σκοπο απο το μεσο.
Βασιλης
Ποσοι απο μας παραδεχονται ξεκαθαρα πως δεν τους νοιαζει η μουσικη απολαυση, αλλα η βελτιωση των συρριστικων ή της εικονας;
Ποσοι απο μας παραδεχονται πως το υπερεγω τους απαιτει οχι κατ' αναγκη καλυτερα, αλλα σιγουρα ακριβοτερα μηχανακια απο του γειτονα;
Μακαριοι οσοι μπορουν εν γνωσει τους να κρατουν ισορροπιες και να ξεχωριζουν/συνδυαζουν τον σκοπο απο το μεσο.
Βασιλης
Τα μικρά ανούσια πράγματα στη ζωή μας είναι αυτά που την κάνουν όμορφη.
Η μουσική, ένα ωραίο γεύμα, ένα ποτό με φιλαράκια,,,
Ναι, είμαι εξαρτημένος και δεν θέλω να απεξαρτηθώ.
Αν είχα όμως να διαλέξω ανάμεσα στο τέλειο στερεοφωνικό που θα μπορώ να ακούω μουσική μία φορά την εβδομάδα και σε ένα mini σύστημα όπου θα μπορώ να ακούω κάθε μέρα, το mini θα διάλεγα!
Το πως ακούγεται ένα στερεοφωνικό το ακούς όταν κάνεις δοκιμές, όταν η συζήτηση είναι σχετικά με αυτό το θέμα, ή όταν θέλεις να αγοράσεις ένα κομμάτι.
Η μουσική, ένα ωραίο γεύμα, ένα ποτό με φιλαράκια,,,
Ναι, είμαι εξαρτημένος και δεν θέλω να απεξαρτηθώ.
Αν είχα όμως να διαλέξω ανάμεσα στο τέλειο στερεοφωνικό που θα μπορώ να ακούω μουσική μία φορά την εβδομάδα και σε ένα mini σύστημα όπου θα μπορώ να ακούω κάθε μέρα, το mini θα διάλεγα!
Το πως ακούγεται ένα στερεοφωνικό το ακούς όταν κάνεις δοκιμές, όταν η συζήτηση είναι σχετικά με αυτό το θέμα, ή όταν θέλεις να αγοράσεις ένα κομμάτι.