Re: Απάντηση: -Sony TV Line-up 2016-
giorgos30
XD8505 BAEP
XD8505 BAEP
XD8577 SAEP
XD8588 BAEP
XD8599 BAEP
All this models have identical hardware(chassi & videopanel - AS-IPS, 8-bit+FRC, 120/100Hz).
The differences are in the color of the hull and the complement.
The specs are written different values of Motionflow XR, but it is a marketing gimmick to deceive potential buyers.
The first letter after the numbers indicates the color of the hull. (XD8577
SAEP)
Π - black
S - silver
The other three letters indicate the region for sale.
AEP - All Europe Product / Continent without UK
AE2 - All European 2
U - United Kingdom
E - East Europe
R - Russia & Ex USSR
I - Italy
http://www.lcd-compare.com/index.php?action=compare&SONKD55XD8599=on&SONKD55XD8505=on
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Sony UHD TV 2016 - european models[/TD]
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Series
Model
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UHD
Premium
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Dolby Vision
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Hybrid Log Gamma
(HLG)
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HDR 10
3 fundamental HDR
building blocks:
ST2084 (EOTF PQ),
ST2086 (static metadata)
ST2094 (dynamic metadata)
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The measured values of the brightness in Windows
2/5/10/15/20/100%
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Videopanel
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Type LCD matrix,
Bits of color,
(Operating frequency of T-Con board of the panel)
Curvature,
Index,
Screen Uniformity
Anti-reflective filter
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Supported Resolutions
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Frame per seconds
24, 25, 30, 50, 60, 100, 120 p/i
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Chroma subsampling
4:4:4
4:2:2
4:2:0
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Backlight Unit
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Type backlight
Local Dimming zone
Type LED
MEMC
Backlight Scanning
Black Frame Insertion
PulsΠϴ Wide Modulation
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Measurements
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DCI P3
Rec.2020
Delta E
Gamma
Color Temperature
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Measurements
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ANSI Contrast
With local dimming
Without local dimming
White level
Black level
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Viewing angle
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Horizontal & Vertical
(°cone)
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Motion resolution
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Product
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Input Lag
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Audio
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Built in Media Player
Supported file systems
Image file formats
Audio file formats/codecs
Video file formats
Subtitles
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Hardware & Software
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Operating System
Board
Central Processing Unit
System on Chip
Instruction set
Graphic Processor Unit
RAM
Total memory
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Networks
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Conectors
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Tuners
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Opportunities for
calibration
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Note
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Pros & Cons
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Product[/TD]
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XD85
(Flat)
KD-85XD8505 BAEP
KD-75XD8505 BAEP
KD-65XD8599 BAEP
KD-65XD8577 SAEP
KD-65XD8505 BAEP
KD-55XD8505 BAEP
KD-55XD8599 BAEP
KD-55XD8588 BAEP
KD-55XD8577 SAEP
copy of last year's X850xC, but redesigned with IPS panel and without 3D[/TD]
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No[/TD]
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No[/TD]
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No[/TD]
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85" -
75" -
65" - 400cd/m2
55" - 2% - 369cd/m[SUP]2[/SUP]
Compatible
HDR Processing
(missing hardware for playback HDR)[/TD]
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85" - AS-IPS, 8-bit+FRC, 120/100Hz
75" - AS-IPS, 8-bit+FRC, 120/100Hz
65" - AS-IPS, 8-bit+FRC, 120/100Hz
55" - AS-IPS, 8-bit+FRC, 120/100Hz
Flat
8577/8588/8599 - MotionFlow XR 1000
8505/75"/85"- MotionFlow XR 800
There is no visible difference!
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Semi-mate[/TD]
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3840 X 2160 / 30Hz / 4:4:4: Yes
3840 X 2160 / 60Hz: Yes
3840 X 2160 / 60Hz / 4:4:4: Yes
1080p / 60Hz / 4:4:4: Yes
1080p / 120Hz: Yes
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3840 X 2160/24P
3840 X 2160/25P
3840 X 2160/30P
3840 X 2160/50P
3840 X 2160/60P
4096 X 2160/24P (HDMI 2/3)
1080/24P (Only HDMI)
1080/30P (Only HDMI)
1080/60P (HDMI / Component)
1080/50P (HDMI / Component)
1080 / 60I
1080 / 50I
720/24P (Only HDMI)
Most resolutions are accepted. To get chroma 4:4:4, select 'Game' or 'Graphics' picture mode. For 4k / 60Hz / 4:4:4, you also need to set the HDMI input to 'Enhanced format' (under 'External inputs' menu). Just like with last year's Sony TVs, 1080p / 120Hz produces little artifacts (lines), but this shouldn't be too bothersome while gaming. The 'Graphics' picture mode has fewer of these little artifacts.[/TD]
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85" - Edge led (below)
75" - Edge Led (below)
65" - Edge Led (below)
55" - Edge Led (below)
Quantum Dots (+ Blue Led)
Frame Dimming
Motion Clarity Frame Interpolation
No PWM[/TD]
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85"-
75"-
65"-
55"- 86% / 63%
Triluminos Display
phosphorus-based diodes for a wide gamut close to the DCI 4K
(Blue Led + Red/Green phosphorus)
Super Bit Mapping which upsample colors in 14-bit internal processing[/TD]
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85" -
75" -
65" -
55" - 850:1 / 0.12cd/m2
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85" - °
75" - °
65" - °
55" - 58° / 67°
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85" -
75" -
65" -
55" -
Responce Time - 9.5ms[/TD]
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XD85
(8505, 8577, 8599)
85", 75", 65", 55"
ΠΊΠΎΠΏΠΈΠϴ Π½Π° ΠΌΠΈΠ½Π°Π»ΠΎΠ³ΠΎΠ´ΠΈΡΠ½ΠΈΡΡ X850xC, Π½ΠΎ Ρ Π½ΠΎΠ² Π´ΠΈΠ·Π°ΠΉΠ½, Ρ IPS ΠΏΠ°Π½ΠϴΠ» ΠΈ Π±ΠϴΠ· 3D [/TD]
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85" - Game mode 36ms / with MotionFlow 68ms
75" - Game mode 35ms / with MotionFlow 67ms
65" - Game mode 35ms / with MotionFlow 67ms
55" - Game mode 35.5ms / with MotionFlow 66.5ms
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85" - 2x10W
75" - 2x7.5W + 2x7.5W
65" - 2x10W
55" - 2x10W
Dolby Digital
Dilby Plus
Dolby Pulse
DTS
Magnetic Fluid Speaker & Clear Phase
Compatibility
Wireless subwoofer (SWF-BR100)
55", 65" - Bracket for wall mounting (SU-WL450)[/TD]
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FAT16, FAT32, NTFS and exFAT
JPEG, GIF, PNG, MPO
FLAC , M4A, MIDI, MP3, WMA, WAV, LPCM
AVI, DivX, H.263
H.264 / MPEG4 Part 10 / AVC Video
H.265 / MPEG-H Part 2 / HEVC
MKV, Quick Time, M2TS, MP4, WebM, WMV, XviD[/TD]
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Android TV : 6.0,1 Marshmelow (Sony Edition)
Board : SVP4KDTV15
SoC model: MediaTek MU5890
Core architecture: 2xARM Cortex-17(ARMv7)
Instruction Set : 32-bit ARMv7
GPU: ARM Mali T624 triple core
RAM:1,5GB
Total memory: 1508MB
Available memory: 8363MB
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Lan (100BASE-TX/10BASE-T)
Wi-Fi
802.11 a
802.11 b
802.11 g
802.11 n
802.11 n 5GHz
802.11 ac
Wi-Fi Direct
DLNA
Bluetooth(NFC)Ver.4.1 HID/HOGP/3DSP/SPP
(for keyboard and mouse, no Bluetooth audio)[/TD]
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2 x USB 2.0 (DC 5V MAX 500mA)
1 x USB 3.0 (DC 5V MAX 900mA)
1 x Ethernet RJ45
4 x HDMI 2.0a - HDCP2.2 (ARC, CEC, MHL)
1 x Satelite In (Main: F-type female)-
1 x Satelite In (Sub: F-type female)
1 x SCART
1 x AV Composite In
1 x AV Component In
1 x Optical Audio Out (AAC/PCM/AC3)
1 x 3.5mm Audio Out
1 x Antena (RF) (female)
1 x CI+ 1.3[/TD]
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Twin tuners
DVBT/T2/C/S/S2
DiSEqC version 1.0
PIP, Timeshift & PVR
MPEG2, MPEG4
HEVC H.265[/TD]
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White balance- 2/10 points
Gamma - 10 points
ISF - no
THX - no
3 gamuts (Rec.709, DCI, Rec.2020)
but no CMS (Color Management System) to calibrate these gamuts
There are also several preset gamma, black level adjustment, contrast and backlight. The Pro Cinema mode is still the mode plus the near Cinema colorimetry with Delta E of 2.5 average on the gray scale (for rap, below 3 is considered the excesses are not visible) but spreads may rise to 4 in the last gray levels. The color space is also very fair with an average Delta E of 2.8 on the Color Checker and 3.7 on saturations. The average color temperature is 6770K or 6500K very close to the search. Gamma, meanwhile, is 1.8 by default, so more to view in bright room, but as the Advanced Mode Improvement of Contrasts (ACE) is enabled by default, we see that it is not at all linear. Moreover, this measure gamma is interesting because it shows that this mode does not clog blacks, but whites are still burned, so we lose grayscale. That said, calibrating the XD85 we were able to maintain a linear gamma with ACE enabled to Low or Medium. The XD85 can therefore be used like that, without calibration, but for the more demanding it is still advisable to have provided an effective probe, because with so few differences, a cheap probe could do more harm only good.[/TD]
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In Europe it will exist in three design variants named
,KD-XD8505B (black) ,KD-XD8577S (silver) , ,KD-XD8588B (black) ,KD-XD8599B (black).
What differences between references XD8505, XD8577 and XD8599? Let me be clear: no! This is simply references marketed only to please some signs that make large volumes of sales, so they do not suffer from competition on the Internet. You will probably see a little difference, often on the index of fluidity XR1000 instead of XR800, but these are purely marketing indices. There is no visible difference between a Motionflow XR800 and XR1000.
ACE (Advanced Contrast Enhancer), the famous setting "Improvement of Advanced Contrast" could be compared to a very efficient dynamic contrast. Still, I always advise to disable dynamic contrasts, but that ACE is not like the others. Note that I do not say it is faultless, but it brings so many dynamics of the image on an IPS panel that is difficult to do without. Moreover, it enables up to 1200: 1 ANSI contrast. Its main strength is that it can offer a hyper dynamic image, without clogging the black (it is the opposite, it opens totally black and greatly improves readability in dark scenes). In lit room or in daylight, the illusion is so perfect, you'd swear that this TV has a contrast very powerful, even more powerful than some VA panels. Better, this ACE is devilishly effective with UHD Blu-ray because it totally transforms HDR rendering. No, the HDR seems bland, uninteresting and bridled, while if it is active, HDR rendering is very nice.
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Indeed, despite a very limited coverage Rec.2020, the XD85 offers one of the best colorimetric market through its IPS panel and its algorithm Triluminos remastered colors in Wide Gamut very effectively maintaining a natural. Only the DX900 who offered me a better colorimetry thanks to its LED red phosphorus that help provide intense red that IPS while retaining the advantages of a VA panel. In addition, Sony XD85 offers colorimetry very fair cardboard output and angles very open visions that allow the whole family to enjoy a good image regardless of his place on the couch.
However, this TV is clearly not recommended for those who watch their movies in dark room. Besides, if you watch your movies in darkened room, there is absolutely no reason to buy the XD85, since the X85C offers exactly the same functionality, but with a VA panel and a very good contrast. True, the colors will be slightly less beautiful but dark room contrast is still paramount.
The Sony XD85 is limited to enjoy the UHD Blu-ray, with a slab 8 bit HDR rendering flanged (bright peak at 425 cd / m², whatever the size of the target HDR), but again, the ACE saves setting and can offer an ultra dynamic image, very pleasant to look lit room. Nevertheless, the IPS puts his HDR limits with enough gray black, which can amount to more than 0.30 cd / m² at the brightest images, so again, you better watch Blu-ray UHD illuminated room .
- + Reality Creation: very efficient video post-processing of HD content / UHD
- + one of the best upscaling UHD market
- + Motionflow: best motion compensation market
- + The ACE (Advanced Improvement Contarstes) boosts the dynamics, especially in HDR.
- + A perceived contrast and amazing dynamic to an IPS panel
- + A really beautiful color matching, very fair cardboard output in Rec.709 as HDR
- + Viewing angle twice as wide a VA panel
- + Simple calibration, fast and efficient!
- + ghosting time very good, good precision in movements
- + Inputlag reduced (35ms) + Quick rΓ©mance time (9.6ms), excellent for play
- + The possibilities offered by the Android OS TV
- + A more responsive interface, many bugs have been fixed, but there are still ...
- + Dual tuner DVB-T2 / S2 compatible with 4K channels, PVR and PIP functions
- + HDMI 2.0a compatible HDR10, 4K/60, 1080p/120Hz, BT.2020
- + Excellent performances in lit room
- + honorable and good audio quality sound power
- - Contrast too feeble for viewing in dark room
- - Some visible leaks if it is set too high or too low relative to the center of the slab
- - Clouding some, though not visible in lit room
- - Average video processing with SD sources
- - Finish and manufacturing quality rather average
- - No Local Dimming
- - The abandonment of 3D on an IPS panel (passive 3D slab UHD is wearing beautiful)
- - A HDR too restrained, too narrow gamut Rec.2020
- - No 10 bit panel
- - No ISFccc, or Color Management System (CMS)
- - Still bugs with Android TV (videos stretched in multimedia playback, reboot, frequent loss of signal with HDMI devices HDCP 1.1, remote control does not respond fairly regularly, saccades with KODI, no audio bitstream with 5.1 KODI)
- - Too many applications not optimized for Android TV
- - Lacks a little power for a better experience with Android TV
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