Το DVD και τα Μυστικά του

Re: Ο πραγματικός πόλεμος των format άρχισε!

βρε οι τηλεοράσεις που είχαμε τότε δεν μπορούσαν έτσι και αλλιώς να αποδώσουν τίποτα φοβερό... μια χαρά τους ταίριαζε το vhs.
(άσε που είχε και recording… τα πράγματα ήταν πιο δύσκολα τότε για να γίνει αλλαγή)

Μην το λες.
Με το DVD είχα δει διαφορά. Όχι στην ανάλυση φυσικά, αλλά στη χρήση.
Τα μενού, οι επιλογές υποτίτλων, τα commentaries, μου είχαν φανεί τότε σούπερ τεχνολογία (όσο το σκέφτομαι, γελάω).

Χώρια που ήμουν στο τσακ να βάλω και κάρτα mpeg στο PC που έφτιαξα το '99, αλλά ευτυχώς μόλις είχε βγει το WinDVD και οι άλλοι software decoders και τελικά δε χρειάστηκε.

Ήμουν από τους ελάχιστους στο video club που έψαχναν να νοικιάσουν DVD τότε...
 
Re: Ο πραγματικός πόλεμος των format άρχισε!

Εδώ η cnet προειδοποιεί τους πιθανούς αγοραστές να μείνουν μακριά από το Hd-dvd ...
Because of the recent news that Warner Bros. Entertainment will be exclusively supporting Blu-ray, CNET recommends refraining from purchasing an HD DVD player in the near future. Exclusive support of Warner Bros. Entertainment gives Blu-ray a large advantage in terms of studio backing, leaving only Paramount and Universal as major studios releasing movies exclusively on the HD DVD format. This guide will be overhauled after CES to reflect this and any other news announced at the show.
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6463_7-6462511-1.html
Όλοι τελειωμένο το έχουν, οι Hd-dvd fanatics δεν λένε κουβέντα και περιμένουν νέες οδηγίες από τον Bill... ίσως το γυρίσουν σε VOD vs BD.

ΥΓ
μήπως να βάλουμε και εμείς κάποια προειδοποίηση βρε παιδιά, μην πάρουμε κανένα στο λαιμό μας?
(κάτω από την διαφήμιση των Toshiba player θα ήταν καλά :) )
 
Απάντηση: Re: Ο πραγματικός πόλεμος των format άρχισε!

Eσύ είσαι ιδιάζουσα περίπτωση, τα έχουμε πεί... -bye--bye-

πρεπει να μην φοραγε τα γιαλια τοτε......:BDGBGDB55:

ακου δεν ειδε διαφορα..............















σορυ πλακα κανω.............
 
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Re: Ο πραγματικός πόλεμος των format άρχισε!

Εντάξει Blizzard. Αυριο που θα πληρώνεις το Blu χρυσαφι για μια αντιγραφη στα proprietary rights, αφου η Sony θα εχει χωσει μετρητες στις μηχανες παραγωγής αγραφων και θα νοιωθεις σκληρη και μεγαλη την Sony μεσα σου, κοιτα να το απολαμβάνεις.

Εγω ήδη παρήγγειλα τον πρώτο μου Tera Σκληρό, (σεταρω το HTPC μου βλέπετε) και μεστηκα με τα φορμάτ και του ενος και του αλλουνου.

Μου βάλανε και την 24ρα γραμμή (που παρεπιπτώντως "κλειδώνει" στα 16...) και δεν μας πιανει τπτ.-bye-
 
Re: Ο πραγματικός πόλεμος των format άρχισε!

Ολος ο κόσμος το έχει θάψει το format φίλε... διάβασα ίσως και 200 post τις τελευταίες μέρες και δεν βρήκα κανέναν σαν εσένα.

Για το AVclub μιλας η γενικα , γιατι αν μιλας για το AVclub μαλλον εισαι εκτος τοπου και χρονου.:BDGBGDB55:

Η διαφορα μας ειναι οτι εγω και το Blu Ray να επικρατησει σκασιλα μου καθως δεν εχω τιποτα να χασω.

Εσενα ομως αν επικρατησει το HD-DVD μπορει να σε απολυσει η Sony.
 
Re: Ο πραγματικός πόλεμος των format άρχισε!

Εγω ήδη παρήγγειλα τον πρώτο μου Tera Σκληρό, (σεταρω το HTPC μου βλέπετε) και μεστηκα με τα φορμάτ και του ενος και του αλλουνου.

Μου βάλανε και την 24ρα γραμμή (που παρεπιπτώντως "κλειδώνει" στα 16...) και δεν μας πιανει τπτ.-bye-

Tην καλυτερη δουλεια εκανες. Sony vs Toshiba = HD downloading και τελειωνει το θεμα.:2thumb22sup:
 
Re: Ο πραγματικός πόλεμος των format άρχισε!

Για το AVclub μιλας η γενικα , γιατι αν μιλας για το AVclub μαλλον εισαι εκτος τοπου και χρονου.:BDGBGDB55:

Η διαφορα μας ειναι οτι εγω και το Blu Ray να επικρατησει σκασιλα μου καθως δεν εχω τιποτα να χασω.

Εσενα ομως αν επικρατησει το HD-DVD μπορει να σε απολυσει η Sony.

Γειά σου Γιάννη & Χρόνια Πολλά :SFGSFGSF:
 
Απάντηση: Re: Ο πραγματικός πόλεμος των format άρχισε!

Εντάξει Blizzard. Αυριο που θα πληρώνεις το Blu χρυσαφι για μια αντιγραφη στα proprietary rights, αφου η Sony θα εχει χωσει μετρητες στις μηχανες παραγωγής αγραφων και θα νοιωθεις σκληρη και μεγαλη την Sony μεσα σου, κοιτα να το απολαμβάνεις.

Εγω ήδη παρήγγειλα τον πρώτο μου Tera Σκληρό, (σεταρω το HTPC μου βλέπετε) και μεστηκα με τα φορμάτ και του ενος και του αλλουνου.

Μου βάλανε και την 24ρα γραμμή (που παρεπιπτώντως "κλειδώνει" στα 16...) και δεν μας πιανει τπτ.-bye-

και εγω περιμενω το ιδιοκτητο της forthnet στο Ηρακλειο,"σκαβουν" τωρα,
αρα σε κανενα μηνα ετοιμος για HD downloading:BDGBGDB55:
 
Re: Ο πραγματικός πόλεμος των format άρχισε!

Tην καλυτερη δουλεια εκανες. Sony vs Toshiba = HD downloading και τελειωνει το θεμα.:2thumb22sup:

Ναι ρε σεις ετσι επρεπε να γινει μπας και οι εταιρειες software βγαλουν εναν Player της προκοπης.

Με τα πολλα φορμα ειχαμε προβλημα σην αναπαραγωγη.:smash:

............και στα δικαιωματα βεβαιως βεβαιως.







ΥΓ

Ας αγοραζει ο πλιτσαρντ τα δισκακια να μας τα δινει για ριπαρισμα:ADFADF1:
 
CES 2008

CES 2008: Panasonic Press Conference - DMP-BD50


Posted January 6, 2008 by Ben

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This just in from CES: Panasonic has just unveiled the new DMP-BD50 Blu-ray player with full BD Live (profile 2.0) implementation. The player will internally decode Dolby TrueHD as well as DTS HD Master Audio and will have the same SD card functionality as the current DMP-BD30.

BLU-RAY DISC PLAYER DMP-BD50 FACT SHEET

BD-Live

The DMP-BD50's Ethernet terminal is a gateway for Internet connection, which paves the way to an entirely new form of movie-plus-Internet entertainment. In the future, BD-Live users will be able to participate in quizzes and challenge each other to interactive games that are linked to bonus movie content on BD discs. BD-Live also supports other interactive functions, such as Picture-in-Picture and Audio Mixing.

Interactive Functions

Picture-In-Picture

With Picture-in-Picture, a small sub-window is displayed over the main image. There are four examples of Picture-in-Picture modes, each offering distinct functions. They include Enhanced Commentary, Backstage Pass Function, Peek Behind The Animation and Audio Mixing.

Enhanced Commentary*

BD media goes considerably beyond the kind of audio commentary provided in many DVD movies, such as a director discussing the film. Enhanced Commentary makes it possible, for example, for the director or actors to appear in the sub-window (as if they are standing in front of the screen) and point to actors or equipment as they make their comments.

Backstage Pass Function*

This lets you access additional information provided about people, places or things in a BD movie. Use the remote control to select an element highlighted on the screen, and a sub-window opens with the information. For example, there could be notes about the clothing or accessories an actor is wearing or the restaurant in which a scene is set.

Peek Behind The Animation*

While playing back a movie with dubbed-in voices – for example, a feature-length animation – this feature lets you watch in a sub-window as the actors read their parts. You can see the actors' gestures and expressions as they speak, giving you an inside look at a whole facet of moviemaking you've never seen before.

Audio Mixing*

The Audio Mixing function lets you choose which soundtrack to listen to: the one from the content playing in the main window, the one from the sub-window, or both at the same time. The sub-window soundtrack can also be reproduced in 5.1-channel surround sound.

*Depending upon program contents.

Other BD-Live Possibilities

The future is expected to bring a host of imaginative new features. For example, the DMP-BD50 will be able to connect directly to the Internet and download additional content from Websites to an SD Memory Card for more viewing and playing enjoyment.

HIGH-DEFINITION PICTURE AND SOUND QUALITY

UniPhier®
Combining a PHL Reference Chroma Processor with advanced P4HD imaging technology, Uniphier, the Precise Digital Video processor reproduces crisp, natural colors that are extremely faithful to the original movie. The beautiful images are complemented by an exceptionally pure, accurate sound achieved through Audio Re-master and other leading-edge audio technologies. Uniphier reflects the advanced encoding and authoring technologies developed by Panasonic Hollywood Laboratory (PHL) in collaboration with film industry professionals. With Uniphier at its heart, the DMP-BD50 provides a level of image and sound quality that meets Hollywood's stringent demands – so you experience movies just the way they were meant to be experienced.

Precise Digital Video
PHL Reference Chroma Processor
The PHL Reference Chroma Processor up-samples (4:2:0 to 4:2:2) the color information in decoded video signals. Using proprietary Panasonic technology, this innovative circuit faithfully reproduces the fine details and nuances of Blu-ray video streams that have been recorded with high quality image compression system. It generates images with all the clarity and depth that BD-Video movies have to offer.

P4HD (Pixel Precision Progressive Processing for HD)
To get the best HD images from a BD-Video disc, you need a player that renders high-quality progressive images, expresses motion smoothly, and draws sharp diagonal lines. The DMP-BD50's P4HD processes more than 15 billion pixels per second and applies the optimum processing to every pixel in the video data on the disc. The result is images with exceptional resolution.

Deep Color*
The DMP-BD50's HDMI output is Deep Color compatible. While the earlier HDMI V.1.2 offers 8-bit, 256-step gradation on 4:4:4, HDMI V.1.3 enables video signals to be sent on 12-bit, 4,096-step gradation at any format. This helps the DMP-BD50 reproduce natural looking colors with smooth gradation and minimal color banding.
*An HDMI™ V.1.3 compatible TV is required.

1080/24p Playback The DMP-BD50 provides 1080/24p output (via HDMI) for Blu-ray titles and DVD titles. It reproduces movie images from a Blu-ray Disc in their original 24p form, with no need for conversion.

HD Audio Format Decoding and Output The DMP-BD50 is equipped with decoders for the high-quality, lossless Dolby® TrueHD and DDTS-HD Master Audio™ audio formats. These formats theoretically contain the information to reproduce original sound sources in their entirety. Connection to an AV amplifier with 7.1-channel input capability enables sound quality on the level of a studio master system.

Audio Re-master for All Media
The DMP-BD50's Audio Re-master function compensates for data lost in the compression process used in BD and DVD recording. This helps create a fuller, richer sound that is extremely faithful to the original. It also brings re-mastering to the Blu-ray Disc for the first time ever.

HD Networking with SD Memory Card
The DMP-BD50 comes equipped with a slot for SD Memory Cards. Just take the SD Memory Card from your HD camcorder or digital still camera, and you're ready to view high resolution photos and motion images on your TV.

Linking with an HD Camcorder
The DMP-BD50 can play back AVCHD-format images shot with an HD camcorder, such as the Panasonic HDC-SD9. Images recorded onto the camcorder's SD Memory Card are output directly from the DMP-BD50's HDMI terminal in their original, high-quality 1920 x 1080 resolution. The DMP-BD50 also provides an AVCHD Direct Navigator function that makes it easy to search for particular scenes.

Linking with a Digital Camera The DMP-BD50 can play back JPEG still images on an SD Memory Card, such as those recorded with a Lumix FZ3 digital camera. The DMP-BD50 can output the images to 1920 x 1080 resolution – ideal for a full-HD TV – and output them via the HDMI terminal*. Using the Slideshow playback feature, you can play a music CD at the same time you're showing the photos, so viewers enjoy both beautiful images and their favorite music.

VIERA LinkTM
Seamless GUI
You Can Control Your Blu-ray Disc™ Player with the TV Remote Control* When the TV is on, the VIERA Link function lets you switch to home theater mode using just the Panasonic VIERA TV's remote control unit. Simply press the VIERA Link button on the TV's remote control and select "BD Player" on the VIERA Link Menu screen. The BD player's menu will display on the TV screen, and you can begin playback of a Blu-ray Disc or select from the Blu-ray disc

Source:
Blu-ray.com | Permalink



CES 2008: Sony to Offer Sub-$200 PC Drive
Posted January 6, 2008 by Josh

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Live from the Sony Pre-CES Press Conference, Sony has unveiled plans to offer a sub-$200 PC Drive. No specs were announced, but we should hear something tomorrow when the show officially begins.

Source: Blu-ray.com | Permalink


CES 2008: Sony Showcases 2 BD-Live Players
Posted January 6, 2008 by Josh

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At the Sony booth, they are showcasing two new prototype BD-Live players. The Sapphire 3 and 4 will both be Profile 2.0. Sony also has indicated that the PS3 will get a BD-Live upgrade sometime in the future.


(τα bold δικα μου)


CES 2008: Funai Advance Press Release - New Bonus View Player


Posted January 7, 2008 by Ben

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Funai Press Release:

Funai Corporation, Inc., the North American sales and marketing subsidiary of Funai Electric Co., Ltd., today announced the introduction of its first Blu-ray Disc player (NB500 series) for the North American market.

The Company will begin production in the first quarter of 2008, and plans to begin selling the player at retail stores in North America during the second quarter. The retail price is projected to be under $300. Demand for players that supports High Definition contents is increasing swiftly in the U.S. market thanks to the rapid spread of Full HD flat-panel televisions in addition to FCC mandate to switch from analog to digital formats. In the consumer products market in particular, movie and music contents are becoming more common in the Blu-ray Disc format, and shipments of specialized disc players and game machines compatible with Blu-ray Disc products are increasing. Within the healthy competitive environment in this next-generation DVD market, the Blu-ray Disc format is steadily enhancing its market position. The player supports Profile 1.1 (Final Standard Profile), the latest Blu-ray Disc format standard, and will allow consumers to fully enjoy the Blu-ray Disc HD experience. The product is expected to further stimulate the Blu-ray Disc market, and enable customers to appreciate movies and music with even higher resolutions and higher quality sound.

More to come...

και δηλωσεις του CEO της

σονυ...

CES 2008: Sir Howard Stringer is Feeling the Blu(e)s


Posted January 7, 2008 by PeterTHX

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But that's a good thing. In his address to the press today at CES, the CEO of Sony Corporation was smiling when he spoke about his company's commitment to Blu-ray Disc. Sony's presentation was limited to existing models such as the BDP-S300, BDP-S500 and the BDP-S2000ES. Sr. VP Randy Waynick showed how Blu-ray disc is a major part of Sony's HDNA push with products spanning several groups: home video (BD players), Computers (VAIO with BD drives), and Multimedia (PlayStation 3). Additionally, he discussed a future BRAVIA LCD television with modular components, such as a plug-in BD/DVD drive or additional HDMI inputs.
Sony displayed a stylish Media Center VAIO PC with Blu-ray, and the current HES-V1000, which integrates a 200 disc BD/DVD/CD changer, BD writer, and 500GB HDD ($3499). Waynick also highlighted the new BD-ROM/writer BWU-200S, which at under $200 "has the ability to put Blu-ray in any PC". The drive appears to be 4x as well.
New Blu-ray products were limited to the prototype "Sapphire 3" and "Sapphire 4" which look to be BD-Live enabled successors to the BDP-S300/500 players. Also confirmed was the ability for the PS3 to be updated to full Profile 2.0 BD-Live capability, though no date was given. Finally, Sony highlighted the recent announcement of Warner Home Video's commitment to exclusively release in the Blu-ray Disc format. WHV's exclusivity gives Blu-ray a decisive content advantage when it comes to the competition.
 
Re: Ο πραγματικός πόλεμος των format άρχισε!

Για το AVclub μιλας η γενικα , γιατι αν μιλας για το AVclub μαλλον εισαι εκτος τοπου και χρονου.:BDGBGDB55:
Γενικά μιλάω.... σε όλα τα forum του εξωτερικού οι άνθρωποι έχουν ρίξει λευκή πετσέτα, κανείς δεν τρέφει ελπίδες ότι θα μπορέσει να αντέξει το hd-dvd μετά από αυτό το χτύπημα.

Ούτε και εσύ από ότι βλέπω, μόνο ένας βρέθηκε μέχρι στιγμής.

Η διαφορα μας ειναι οτι εγω και το Blu Ray να επικρατησει σκασιλα μου καθως δεν εχω τιποτα να χασω.

Εσενα ομως αν επικρατησει το HD-DVD μπορει να σε απολυσει η Sony.

Tην καλυτερη δουλεια εκανες. Sony vs Toshiba = HD downloading και τελειωνει το θεμα.
Έτσι μπράβο... για να δουν και οι αφελείς ποιοι ήταν τσάτσοι της MS που μόνο για αυτό το λόγο υποστήριζαν το Hd-dvd.

Οχι επειδή ήταν πιο φτηνό και ήλπιζαν ότι θα μπορούσε να επικρατήσει γρήγορα, αλλά γιατί ο αγαπημένος τους bill ήθελε να κάνει ζημιά στο χώρο.
 
Re: Ο πραγματικός πόλεμος των format άρχισε!

repost απο το φορουμ του hd dvd
Blu-ray exchange program peace offering?

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"The Digital Bits" has been proposing an interesting idea. The site's editor, Bill Hunt, is suggesting that the BDA offer HD-DVD supporters a peace offering of sorts. Maybe an exchange program for some HD-DVD discs and discounts on Blu-ray hardware for those that recently bought HD-DVD players.

More interestingly, he says that he discussed his ideas with BDA executives and they seemed very receptive!

What would you think of such a program? Would you take advantage of it?

Here's some of what he wrote:

http://www.digitalbits.com/#idea

"I think it would be wise at this point for the Blu-ray Disc Association and its member studios and manufacturers to make a peace offering of sorts to HD-DVD supporters. Warner and the rest of the BDA should make some kind of offer to HD-DVD enthusiasts that would allow them to exchange a few of their HD-DVD discs for Blu-ray versions of the same titles, or to provide some kind of additional discount on Blu-ray players to those who have purchased HD-DVD players prior to December 31st 2007, to help them migrate to Blu-ray more easily and painlessly. It would be a nice gesture... It would be a nice way to welcome HD-DVD consumers into the Blu-ray fold, and it's a way to help put this format war foolishness - and the acrimony that it's inspired online - behind us. It's worth considering."

The NEXT DAY he wrote:

"That idea I floated yesterday, that the BDA should offer an olive branch to HD-DVD consumers? I mentioned it to senior BDA executives this evening, and I think you can safely say that they're going to move forward with something along these very lines in the weeks ahead. We'll post more when we can, but the idea was definitely warmly received. In fact, plans are already in the works. We'll post more on this as things develop."


http://forum.hd-dvd.com/showthread.php?t=2636


απογοητευση στο φορουμ του hd dvd...
 
Απάντηση: Ο πραγματικός πόλεμος των format άρχισε!

Αν και μοιάζει εξαιρετικά απίθανο, είναι ενδιαφέρον. Βέβαια για το hardware το κόβω αδύνατο, μόνο η Toshiba θα μπορούσε να το κάνει. Αλλά αν αυτό μπορεί να γίνει στις ταινίες -όλες τις ταινίες, όχι μόνο αυτές που υπάρχουν σε BD- θα είναι πολύ καλή εξέλιξη. Βέβαια κάποιοι δε θα μπορούμε να το εκμεταλλευτούμε, λόγω region coding. Για να θυμόμαστε ποιος νίκησε...
 
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Αυτό με τις περιοχές, από την εποχή του DVD μου καθόταν στο λαιμό...



Πάντως, καλού-κακού, θα κοιτάξω πρώτα για κανένα μικρούλι HTPC και βλέπουμε αργότερα για HD πηγή...
 
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Re: CES 2008

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/s...Sharp_Unveils_Second-Gen_Blu-ray_Player_/1339

CES: Sharp Unveils Second-Gen Blu-ray Player
Sun Jan 06, 2008 at 07:54 PM ET
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Emphasizing its commitment to the Blu-ray format , Sharp today announced its second-gen Blu-ray player, the BD-HP50U.

According to the company, the new player will be Profile 1.1 compliant and it may even support BD-Live (the fact that Sharp's press release seems to suggest that "Profile 1.1" and "BD Live" are synonymous doesn't inspire a lot of confidence on that last point).






We do know that the player will support both Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD via 7.1 channel HDMI digital output, and that it will boast Sharpʼs proprietary Quick Start feature, which takes viewers from disc loading to viewing in less than 10 seconds.

Sharp says its BD-HP50U player will hit stores in May at an MSRP of $699.99.
 
Re: CES 2008

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/CES_2008/Philips/CES:_Philips_Intros_$349_Blu-ray_Player/1338

CES: Philips Intros $349 Blu-ray Player
Sun Jan 06, 2008 at 06:57 PM ET
Tags: CES 2008 (all tags)

Philips has announced its latest Blu-ray player, the BDP7200, which it says will retail for the value price of $349.

The first Profile 1.1 compliant player from Philips, the deck boasts full 1080p/24 and Deep Color support, and the ability to control connected devices using the EasyLink HDMI Consumer Electronics Control (CEC) protocols.



Although the company's press release makes no mention of audio codec support, the eagle-eyed folks over at Engadget snapped this pic from behind the demo unit, which would seem to indicate a lack of 7.1 audio support.

Philips says the BDP7200 will hit store shelves this April.