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Re: Nikon Z6 & Z7 full frame mirrorless

Καλοτραβηχτη κι από μένα.
Να τη χαρείς πραγματικά!
Όταν έχεις χρόνο και διάθεση, ανέβασε κανένα υποεκτεθειμένο RAW (βαριά υποέκθεση) για να αναλάβει ο Ηλίας να μας διαφωτίσει για το θέμα του banding που αναφέρουν κάποιοι..
 
Re: Nikon Z6 & Z7 full frame mirrorless

Μεγειές και καλοκλίκωτη!

Στάλθηκε από το Lenovo TB-X304L μου χρησιμοποιώντας Tapatalk
 
Re: Nikon Z6 & Z7 full frame mirrorless

Το έχω γράψει ότι το συγκεκριμένο κιτ με τον 24-70 μοιάζει άριστη πρόταση. Μαζεμένο και ικανό. Μόνο το focus scale θα μου έλειπε αλλά πιο πολύ ψυχολογικά.

Καλορίζικη!
 
Απάντηση: Re: Nikon Z6 & Z7 full frame mirrorless

Καλοκλικωτη και περιμένουμε δείγματα όταν την μάθεις με το καλό.
 
Re: Nikon Z6 & Z7 full frame mirrorless

καλοκλικοτη!... η αγορα εγινε απο Ελλαδα και ποσο το μαλλι...ειχε και τον ανταπτορα μεσα για τους F??
 
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partisan said:
καλοκλικοτη!... η αγορα εγινε απο Ελλαδα και ποσο το μαλλι...ειχε και τον ανταπτορα μεσα για τους F??
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Η αγορά έγινε απο Ελλάδα απο το κατάστημα του Σταυρινάκη. Μέρος του κόστους κάλυψε η d810 που δόθηκε σε ανταλλαγή. Στο κιτ περιλαμβάνεται το σώμα, ο φακός ο αντάπτορας και μια κάρτα xqd 64 gb ως δώρο.
 
Re: Απάντηση: Re: Nikon Z6 & Z7 full frame mirrorless

T.Kostas said:
Η αγορά έγινε απο Ελλάδα απο το κατάστημα του Σταυρινάκη. Μέρος του κόστους κάλυψε η d810 που δόθηκε σε ανταλλαγή. Στο κιτ περιλαμβάνεται το σώμα, ο φακός ο αντάπτορας και μια κάρτα xqd 64 gb ως δώρο.
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Μηπως ακουσες κατι περι του ποτε αναμενεται η Ζ6? Μηπως και κατι σχετικα με την τιμη της ?
 
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Από το κατάστημα σε μια γενική συζήτηση που είχαμε πιστεύουν ότι θα την έχουν (χωρίς να είναι σίγουροι) αρχές Δεκέμβρη.
 
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Τα reviews του dpreview και του imagingresourse όσον αφορά τις επιδόσεις του συστήματος εστίασης της z7 ειναι αντιφατικά η εγώ δεν καταλαβάινω κατι καλά;
 
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NassosT said:
Καλορίζικη Κώστα, αν θέλεις γράψε μας πώς κατέληξες σε αυτήν αντί για την D850. Έχει ενδιαφέρον πιστεύω αυτός ο προβληματισμός.
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Νάσο δεν το έγραψα εγώ αλλά στο παρακατω κείμενο παρατιθενται σχεδόν όλοι οι λόγοι που με οδήγησαν στην επιλογή μου.

The Z7 has SUBSTANTIALLY increased the usability and performance of manual focus and non-VR lenses. Working with the manual focus lenses on the D850 was frustrating. With the OVF and focusing by green dot and arrows, there was just too much inaccuracy. When they hit, there was no comparison but it was too infrequent. Even after painstakingly calibrating with AF adjust settings there is just too much play before the arrows and dot change. Maybe 1:4 ratio of perfectly in focus images. Using the back screen and peaking worked very well to nail focus on a tripod, but was near impossible holding that weight (lens and D850) away from my eye.Manual Focus - The Z7 gives me a β€œloupe” anywhere in the frame (ala large format ground glass focusing) through peaking and 100% zoom, that allows me to release the shutter without taking my eye away from the critical focusing point.

Stabilisation - The Z7 stabilises all of my lenses. Imagine what a stabilised Otus lens would weigh/cost! The Zeiss 24 and 135’s can now be used at least two stops faster for still subjects. The AF 20, 35, 50 and 105 all gain stabilisation. The 105 f1.4 gains stabilisation!!! What was an already spectacular lens, has become even more useful.

AF accuracy - The AF-S focus does not miss. Hyperbole? Maybe but my experience so far is very near 100%. Slower, though it may be in some circumstances. , on sensor focus is way more consistent and accurate than two-path mirror interpolation. Pinpoint focus through the viewfinder is a welcome addition as well. I never quite knew where around the focus point in the D850 the system was evaluating though I am sure it occasionally grabbed something with high contrast adjacent to the small rectangle in the viewfinder.
AF adjust and Sigma lenses - Sigma Art lenses are a bargain. The 35 and 50 Art lenses resolve incredibly. Otus level. Even if colour and bokeh are subjectively .... different. On the D850, without the Sigma dock, they were effectively manual focus only lenses. With the USB dock and hours of calibration I got them very close to β€œgood” with AF. On the Z7, they are auto focusing perfectly right out of the gate! This makes me smile.

F-mount lenses and FTZ adapter - The huge selection and quality of F-mount lenses is well established. Only Canon rivals it. So far, their use with the FTZ adapter is transparent compared to the D850. I wish the tripod mount on the FTZ adapter would rotate up and out of the way but it is very welcome and useful in centring the weight and taking pressure off the camera’s Z-mount when used on a tripod.

Grip, size and weight - The grip feels great. With heavy lenses it is certainly more front heavy than with the D850. But I feel it is worth the one pound less weight tradeoff for longer sessions and my shoulders are thankful with it in the bag. The grip is shorter than the D850 grip, but I can easily get all my fingers involved in supporting the camera (average sized hands, no jokes please). With the 300 PF this thing looks so cute. A cute, light little beast!
Split screen focusing - one of my favourite D850 features now moves to the viewfinder! Bring on the tilt shift adapters! Nikon, if you are listening, please add the ability to chose any two points (points currently are restricted to one movable horizontal line with one on left half / and one on the right half of the viewfinder. At a minimum, landscape shifts need two vertically oriented points for foreground / background focus. For product photography, diagonal points would be a very welcome addition. For group shots, choosing two faces at the extremes of a group of people quickly achieves best focus range.

Viewfinder histogram - uh, yeah!
Monochrome viewfinder - shooting RAW + JPG allows me to view and shoot the world in black and white. In addition, using filters both red and infrared (haven’t tried yet, but worked on my XT-2) and a new world presents itself in liveview!
Compatibility - I have yet to put my flashes (910’s) through their paces but I am hopeful. I did lose my remote to the removal of the D850 remote port.
In camera battery charging with USB - hooray! A welcome addition.

Future possibilities - Future lenses and 3rd party adapted lenses with the new flange distance and Z-mount diameter have / will open a new world to Nikon users. I can’t wait to have tilt-shift Hasselblad MF lenses with liveview!!! PC-E sales will surely suffer. And 58mm f0.95....uh yes please.

So what are the sacrifices?
1 card. - meh. Has anyone had a QXD failure? Could it happen, sure. Likelihood, point-something percent. For me, a non issue. (Do I need to say β€œI get it” β€œI really do” for people who do have an issue?)
1/200 sync speed vs 1/250. grrr. But with HS sync available and only 1/3 stop loss, I’ll live with it.
Slower (and less accurate?) AF-C focus - maybe. For me, this will occasionally get in the way. For 90% of what I do, it is a non-issue. And the other 10% it might be an issue 25% of the time. So....
Viewfinder blackout - it is harder to track fast moving subjects than the D850. How much harder? If the D850 was a 9.5/10 the Z7 is a 6/10. It is not a pro sports shooters camera. The D5 is.
Battery life - I don’t mind having multiple batteries. I am not going on days long excursions without power. Non-issue for me.
Banding? - worst case scenario only, and even then maybe not. To make this an issue seems very pedantic. I mean lifting shadows by 6 stops?!? Is it equal to the D850 sensor? 99.99%. Expeed 6 vs Expeed 5. Maybe 100% with give and take.

πηγή https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4330664
 
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Re: Nikon Z6 & Z7 full frame mirrorless

Τ.Kostas μια στοιχειώδη παραγραφοποίηση...

edit την έφτιαξα εγώ, πες την πηγή όμως γιατί δεν γράφεις.
 
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T.Kostas said:
Τα reviews του dpreview και του imagingresourse όσον αφορά τις επιδόσεις του συστήματος εστίασης της z7 ειναι αντιφατικά η εγώ δεν καταλαβάινω κατι καλά;
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Στην θέση σου δεν θα με ενδιέφεραν καθόλου ούτε του ενός ούτε και του άλλου τα reviews ;-)
 
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