Pro Evolution Soccer 2009
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O John Houlihan συντάκτης του computer and videogames πήρε συνέντευξη από τον Shingo 'Seabass' Takatsuka εφ' όλης της ύλης.
We're at the PES European finals with some of the greatest PES players in the game. Do you take a lot of pride watching those games? Does it spoil your enjoyment when players spot flaws or bugs in the AI and exploit them?
Seabass: Well both actually because when I'm creating the game, I have to say that over the years when I see people play in this tournament the more I get ideas about how I can make it better again every year. Changing the program, things like that, that really helps me. With the game when people try to beat the AI, that's no problem, because that's all part of the game. So it doesn't really frustrate me.
I do actually have other feelings when I see people try to beat the AI, I am already making plans on how to beat them back! There's a lot of enjoyment for me when I think about that. But most of all you know, attending this event is really exciting because I can see the enjoyment people have and it gives me power when I go back to Japan to create the next one. Overall I have a very good feeling about the game and the tournament.
This is the second year of PES on PS3. What kind of advantages has that extra year given you to harness the power of the platform?
Seabass: Yes, this is our second or additional year on PS3 and it was very precious to us. Speaking quite frankly PES 2009 to me, when I finished it, I felt I was pretty well satisfied with it.
PES 2008 was how we started on next generation and it takes time on next gen consoles to boost performance on the machine, to optimise it to what we ideally really wanted to do. It was the same on PS2.
So I can say in future years that I think performance will go higher but you'll see right away there is an improvement this year.
Many players use the Wide Angle to play PES, but end up not seeing the great new stadiums you've designed. Do you think we'll ever see a new camera angle which combines ease of play with real cinematic feel?
Seabass: Yes, we know for a fact that many players use the wide angle and camera angles are always really important. Looking at the TV for example, football matches on that, we understand it's a kind of wide view which is the norm, a little bit like this, but a little bit more slanted, that's the normal TV view. We did try to pursue this for a little while but we ended up realising we'd have to sacrifice some of the game's control. So for the game, wide is pretty much the default view for a lot of players.
I do receive complaints from the people who create stadiums in my team that no matter how much they work hardly anyone ever gets to see their finished work. But all in all even these creators understand that if the players are happy, then fine, it doesn't really matter what the camera angle is.
Now as I said at the beginning camera angles are really really important, so we haven't laid back and thought Wide is the best camera angle ever, that's it. We want to continue to experiment to find the best balance between gameplay and camera angle possible.
If there was a criticism of PES 2008 from the players, it was probably to do with the Online modes. How have you attempted to address those criticisms this year and make it smoother and more playable?
Seabass: Oh yes, we do know and people have asked us 'What are you planning on doing about this?' I do acknowledge that last year we placed such emphasis on the controls that the online side was sacrificed. For instance if you as a player didn't have a very good connection, that could really seriously affect your gameplay and it could turn out to be very horrible indeed.
This year we looked at this [online] as a top priority and we tested half way around the world, so that even for people who don't have good connections we wanted to pursue how we can make the game still playable. At the same time we didn't want to lose the controllability that PES has, so taking on this problem really did take a long time and we found a solution as well as taking on more players, four this time, for multiplay online.
And we're not going to stop, until we're fully satisfied with this online version of PES 2009, we want to go even further. So I promise you it will still continue to change and improve further as we go along.
We recently read a statement from Itagaki-san which said graphics aren't perhaps Japanese developers first priority. Do you agree with Itagaki-san?
Seabass: I agree partly with what Mister Itagaki said, but I think that's not all that's different about Japanese developers compared to say Western developers if that's what your question is about. What I feel mostly is how effective or how ineffective Japanese developers are, how developers work.
Right now next to us we have the Kojima Productions team but quite frankly we don't share game influence or information - sure the game's totally different - but we don't share game engines or anything like that. In my imagination at least I think EA share game engines amongst their Madden games and other sports games and things like that.
This is not because we're fighting against each other but it's a little bit of a sad Japanese mentality where we do not share, we pursue our objectives more or less on our own. I think this is the factor which makes Japanese developers a little bit behind western developers, because we don't share, well maybe that's the wrong key word - it's more about being effective in terms of making the game as a product.
So it's a bit about making something unique?
Seabass: Well yes kind of like that, we pursue something unique and also we don't kind of kick back. If we were to drop some performance for example and save it for next year or two years after. Maybe some companies do think in that way, to get the game out, but we don't actually, we put in everything that's possible until the very last minute and don't think about or save anything until next year or the year after. That's another factor.
You must be tired of people claiming PES has copied its Become a Legend mode from FIFA. But why did it take so long for Winning XI's Fantasista mode to reach Europe? What was the rationale behind that?
Seabass: Well yes, that's one of my biggest regrets that we didn't get the Fantasista mode into PES and introduced to Europe. However you do encourage me and it's good that people like yourselves know that our Fantasista mode was earlier than FIFA's Become a Legend.
On a yearly development schedule every year brings its own challenges, what have been the biggest challenges about developing PES 2009?
Seabass: There were basically two main challenges when we started work on PES 2009, the first was introducing new modes, like we were finally able to introduce the Become a Legend mode, that was one of our biggest goals and targets. At the same time we really wanted to make the AI real next-gen AI which we've accomplished this time quite well. So those were the two themes and targets that we had at the beginning of the project.
If EA said 'we're going to dump FIFA and you can have our engine - would you take it? Or would you say 'no I'll continue to do my own stuff'.
Seabass: Well I would think about it really seriously because I still believe that EA's engine and animation is really superb, very good. The modelling of the characters is perhaps not really to my taste actually, so I might not take that part, but seriously I think their engine and their motion style is really great.
How satisfying is it to get the license for the Champions League and big clubs like Liverpool, Man Utd and Barcelona? How much does that bring to the realism and atmosphere of the game? Will it influence people who like FIFA's realism to buy PES?
Seabass: Yes I do think it will influence people to an extent. I was really very happy when we acquired the Champions League license but frankly I originally thought we would never be able to acquire this license when we tried to go after it. As I said I'm very happy but at the same time I also have to say I believe we're still not completely there with all the licenses and leagues we need, for example with your countries' teams. When the day comes when we have the Premiership and Bundisliga I think I'll be even more happy then.
We had a great Euro 2008 tournament this summer, well England didn't but it was a great tournament to watch. Did any of the players or teams influence PES 2009 - what kind of input did it have into the game?
Seabass: Unfortunately during Euro 2008 it was a real crunch time for PES and I didn't have a chance to see as much as I did in previous years. Also it was quite surprising that Spain won the competition which I wouldn't have predicted at all. Afterwards when I managed to catch up with some matches there were some players that were really key and of course that influenced me and it probably will as long as the series goes on.
We're at the PES European finals with some of the greatest PES players in the game. Do you take a lot of pride watching those games? Does it spoil your enjoyment when players spot flaws or bugs in the AI and exploit them?
Seabass: Well both actually because when I'm creating the game, I have to say that over the years when I see people play in this tournament the more I get ideas about how I can make it better again every year. Changing the program, things like that, that really helps me. With the game when people try to beat the AI, that's no problem, because that's all part of the game. So it doesn't really frustrate me.
I do actually have other feelings when I see people try to beat the AI, I am already making plans on how to beat them back! There's a lot of enjoyment for me when I think about that. But most of all you know, attending this event is really exciting because I can see the enjoyment people have and it gives me power when I go back to Japan to create the next one. Overall I have a very good feeling about the game and the tournament.
This is the second year of PES on PS3. What kind of advantages has that extra year given you to harness the power of the platform?
Seabass: Yes, this is our second or additional year on PS3 and it was very precious to us. Speaking quite frankly PES 2009 to me, when I finished it, I felt I was pretty well satisfied with it.
PES 2008 was how we started on next generation and it takes time on next gen consoles to boost performance on the machine, to optimise it to what we ideally really wanted to do. It was the same on PS2.
So I can say in future years that I think performance will go higher but you'll see right away there is an improvement this year.
Many players use the Wide Angle to play PES, but end up not seeing the great new stadiums you've designed. Do you think we'll ever see a new camera angle which combines ease of play with real cinematic feel?
Seabass: Yes, we know for a fact that many players use the wide angle and camera angles are always really important. Looking at the TV for example, football matches on that, we understand it's a kind of wide view which is the norm, a little bit like this, but a little bit more slanted, that's the normal TV view. We did try to pursue this for a little while but we ended up realising we'd have to sacrifice some of the game's control. So for the game, wide is pretty much the default view for a lot of players.
I do receive complaints from the people who create stadiums in my team that no matter how much they work hardly anyone ever gets to see their finished work. But all in all even these creators understand that if the players are happy, then fine, it doesn't really matter what the camera angle is.
Now as I said at the beginning camera angles are really really important, so we haven't laid back and thought Wide is the best camera angle ever, that's it. We want to continue to experiment to find the best balance between gameplay and camera angle possible.
If there was a criticism of PES 2008 from the players, it was probably to do with the Online modes. How have you attempted to address those criticisms this year and make it smoother and more playable?
Seabass: Oh yes, we do know and people have asked us 'What are you planning on doing about this?' I do acknowledge that last year we placed such emphasis on the controls that the online side was sacrificed. For instance if you as a player didn't have a very good connection, that could really seriously affect your gameplay and it could turn out to be very horrible indeed.
This year we looked at this [online] as a top priority and we tested half way around the world, so that even for people who don't have good connections we wanted to pursue how we can make the game still playable. At the same time we didn't want to lose the controllability that PES has, so taking on this problem really did take a long time and we found a solution as well as taking on more players, four this time, for multiplay online.
And we're not going to stop, until we're fully satisfied with this online version of PES 2009, we want to go even further. So I promise you it will still continue to change and improve further as we go along.
We recently read a statement from Itagaki-san which said graphics aren't perhaps Japanese developers first priority. Do you agree with Itagaki-san?
Seabass: I agree partly with what Mister Itagaki said, but I think that's not all that's different about Japanese developers compared to say Western developers if that's what your question is about. What I feel mostly is how effective or how ineffective Japanese developers are, how developers work.
Right now next to us we have the Kojima Productions team but quite frankly we don't share game influence or information - sure the game's totally different - but we don't share game engines or anything like that. In my imagination at least I think EA share game engines amongst their Madden games and other sports games and things like that.
This is not because we're fighting against each other but it's a little bit of a sad Japanese mentality where we do not share, we pursue our objectives more or less on our own. I think this is the factor which makes Japanese developers a little bit behind western developers, because we don't share, well maybe that's the wrong key word - it's more about being effective in terms of making the game as a product.
So it's a bit about making something unique?
Seabass: Well yes kind of like that, we pursue something unique and also we don't kind of kick back. If we were to drop some performance for example and save it for next year or two years after. Maybe some companies do think in that way, to get the game out, but we don't actually, we put in everything that's possible until the very last minute and don't think about or save anything until next year or the year after. That's another factor.
You must be tired of people claiming PES has copied its Become a Legend mode from FIFA. But why did it take so long for Winning XI's Fantasista mode to reach Europe? What was the rationale behind that?
Seabass: Well yes, that's one of my biggest regrets that we didn't get the Fantasista mode into PES and introduced to Europe. However you do encourage me and it's good that people like yourselves know that our Fantasista mode was earlier than FIFA's Become a Legend.
On a yearly development schedule every year brings its own challenges, what have been the biggest challenges about developing PES 2009?
Seabass: There were basically two main challenges when we started work on PES 2009, the first was introducing new modes, like we were finally able to introduce the Become a Legend mode, that was one of our biggest goals and targets. At the same time we really wanted to make the AI real next-gen AI which we've accomplished this time quite well. So those were the two themes and targets that we had at the beginning of the project.
If EA said 'we're going to dump FIFA and you can have our engine - would you take it? Or would you say 'no I'll continue to do my own stuff'.
Seabass: Well I would think about it really seriously because I still believe that EA's engine and animation is really superb, very good. The modelling of the characters is perhaps not really to my taste actually, so I might not take that part, but seriously I think their engine and their motion style is really great.
How satisfying is it to get the license for the Champions League and big clubs like Liverpool, Man Utd and Barcelona? How much does that bring to the realism and atmosphere of the game? Will it influence people who like FIFA's realism to buy PES?
Seabass: Yes I do think it will influence people to an extent. I was really very happy when we acquired the Champions League license but frankly I originally thought we would never be able to acquire this license when we tried to go after it. As I said I'm very happy but at the same time I also have to say I believe we're still not completely there with all the licenses and leagues we need, for example with your countries' teams. When the day comes when we have the Premiership and Bundisliga I think I'll be even more happy then.
We had a great Euro 2008 tournament this summer, well England didn't but it was a great tournament to watch. Did any of the players or teams influence PES 2009 - what kind of input did it have into the game?
Seabass: Unfortunately during Euro 2008 it was a real crunch time for PES and I didn't have a chance to see as much as I did in previous years. Also it was quite surprising that Spain won the competition which I wouldn't have predicted at all. Afterwards when I managed to catch up with some matches there were some players that were really key and of course that influenced me and it probably will as long as the series goes on.
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Λοιπόν να μοιραστώ τις πρώτες εντυπώσεις μαζί σας απο την τελική έκδοση.
1) Τέρμα οι ηρωισμοί! Ακόμα και ο Pirlo μπορεί να σταματήσει τον Stankovic. (Για τον Zlatan χρειάστηκαν καθαρόαιμοι αμυντικοί αλλά τουλάχιστον δεν μπορεί να περνάει πλέον ανενόχλητος).
2) Έπαιξα 7 παιχνίδια και κέρδισα μόνο το ένα :firstprize:! Θετικότατο, αν και το ίδιο μας φαινόταν στην αρχή του 08.
3) Πολλά γκολ βγαίνουν άουτ, ακόμα και με 30% ενέργεια, σε ευθεία (όχι με χασογκόλιδες, Kaka, Sheva, Pirlo, Flamini, Zambrotta).
4) Στο Master League, στο My Team, δίπλα στο popularity του κάθε παίκτη έιχε μία καρδιά μισογεμάτη. Αυτή φαντάζομαι γεμίζει ή αδειάζει αναλόγως του πόσο ικανοποιημένος είναι ο παίκτης απο την ομάδα του και θα παίξει ρόλο στις μεταγραφές, ίσως και στα βελάκια τους (condition).
5) Χρειάζεται ΕΠΙΓΟΝΤΩΣ πατσάκι! Οι αθεόφοβοι, πρόσθεσαν 2 αγγλικές ομάδες και αφαίρεσαν ένα σωρό άλλες! (Δεν ξέρω πόσες, αλλά το ισπανικό πρωτάθλημα είναι πλέον ερείπιο. Καθώς και πολλές ελλειπής μεταγραφές (Robinho x Real Madrid, Shevchengo x Chelsea και δεν ξέρω πόσοι ακόμα).
6) Επιτέλους, όταν εκτελείς σέντρες απο φάουλ παράλληλα προς την αντίπαλη εστεία, οι σέντρες ΠΗΓΑΙΝΟΥΝ παράλληλα και δημιουργούνται προϋποθέσεις για κεφαλιά.
7) Τα σουτ πάνω στην κίνηση, μάλλον απαιτούν πλέον κάποιο συγχρονισμό. 3 ή 4 φορές με την μπάλα στον αέρα πάτησα το σουτ, αλλά ενώ μου έβγαλε κάτω την ενέργεια του σουτ, ο παίκτης δεν σούταρε. Ίσως να απαιτεί να το πατάμε την ώρα που η μπάλα βρίσκεται σε απόσταση βολής. Πως γένεν άυτο;! όπως λέει και ο φίλος ο Γκουνσότο.
Το Become a Legend δεν το κοίταξα ακόμα, θέλω να το ξεκινήσω μια και καλή στο PS3. Προς το παρόν έχω στα χέρια μου την έκδοση του 360.
1) Τέρμα οι ηρωισμοί! Ακόμα και ο Pirlo μπορεί να σταματήσει τον Stankovic. (Για τον Zlatan χρειάστηκαν καθαρόαιμοι αμυντικοί αλλά τουλάχιστον δεν μπορεί να περνάει πλέον ανενόχλητος).
2) Έπαιξα 7 παιχνίδια και κέρδισα μόνο το ένα :firstprize:! Θετικότατο, αν και το ίδιο μας φαινόταν στην αρχή του 08.
3) Πολλά γκολ βγαίνουν άουτ, ακόμα και με 30% ενέργεια, σε ευθεία (όχι με χασογκόλιδες, Kaka, Sheva, Pirlo, Flamini, Zambrotta).
4) Στο Master League, στο My Team, δίπλα στο popularity του κάθε παίκτη έιχε μία καρδιά μισογεμάτη. Αυτή φαντάζομαι γεμίζει ή αδειάζει αναλόγως του πόσο ικανοποιημένος είναι ο παίκτης απο την ομάδα του και θα παίξει ρόλο στις μεταγραφές, ίσως και στα βελάκια τους (condition).
5) Χρειάζεται ΕΠΙΓΟΝΤΩΣ πατσάκι! Οι αθεόφοβοι, πρόσθεσαν 2 αγγλικές ομάδες και αφαίρεσαν ένα σωρό άλλες! (Δεν ξέρω πόσες, αλλά το ισπανικό πρωτάθλημα είναι πλέον ερείπιο. Καθώς και πολλές ελλειπής μεταγραφές (Robinho x Real Madrid, Shevchengo x Chelsea και δεν ξέρω πόσοι ακόμα).
6) Επιτέλους, όταν εκτελείς σέντρες απο φάουλ παράλληλα προς την αντίπαλη εστεία, οι σέντρες ΠΗΓΑΙΝΟΥΝ παράλληλα και δημιουργούνται προϋποθέσεις για κεφαλιά.
7) Τα σουτ πάνω στην κίνηση, μάλλον απαιτούν πλέον κάποιο συγχρονισμό. 3 ή 4 φορές με την μπάλα στον αέρα πάτησα το σουτ, αλλά ενώ μου έβγαλε κάτω την ενέργεια του σουτ, ο παίκτης δεν σούταρε. Ίσως να απαιτεί να το πατάμε την ώρα που η μπάλα βρίσκεται σε απόσταση βολής. Πως γένεν άυτο;! όπως λέει και ο φίλος ο Γκουνσότο.
Το Become a Legend δεν το κοίταξα ακόμα, θέλω να το ξεκινήσω μια και καλή στο PS3. Προς το παρόν έχω στα χέρια μου την έκδοση του 360.
MOUKIOUROUFIS KOSTAS
Banned
- 27 June 2006
- 7,771
Γενικότερα δεν εντυπωσιάζει καθόλου η 1η ματιά, μοιάζει σαν να βλέπεις το 08 ξανά βελτιωμένο, αλλά μετά απο μερικά παιχνίδια νοιώθεις οτι ο τρόπος ανάπτυξης παιχνιδιού έχει αλλάξει κατακόρυφα. Θα εποφεληθούν όσοι παίζουν σωστό passing game. Όπως το βλέπω οι κεντρικοί-playmaker έχουν πολύ πιο σημαντικό απο τον ανύπαρκτο περσινό ρόλο.
Κάτι που ξέχασα πριν, βγαίνουν πολύ έξυπνες μπαλίες-τρύπες οι οποίες έκαναν την διαφορά στα παιχνίδια που έπαιξα. (Ξανά ο playmaker σε πρωταγωνιστικό ρόλο).
Κάτι που ξέχασα πριν, βγαίνουν πολύ έξυπνες μπαλίες-τρύπες οι οποίες έκαναν την διαφορά στα παιχνίδια που έπαιξα. (Ξανά ο playmaker σε πρωταγωνιστικό ρόλο).
sakisart
Senior Member
MOUKIOUROUFIS KOSTAS
Banned
- 27 June 2006
- 7,771
Χθες συνάντησα τον Γιάννη για να μου δώσει το παιχνίδι........ 
Αφού πήγα πρώτα σινεμά, γύρισα σπίτι κατά τις 12 κ το έβαλα να το δω...το αποτέλεσμα ήταν κατά τις 2.30 να κοιμηθώ με τα ζόρια, αφού σήμερα έπρεπε να έρθω στο γραφείο.
Εντυπώσεις
Θετικές :
* Φυσική, χωρίς κολλήματα/σπασίματα, κίνηση των παιχτών στο γήπεδο.
* Ο κάθε παίκτης έχει τα χαρακτηριστικά του στο παιχνίδι, ο Ντάρκο για παράδειγμα καμπουριάζει ! Για να μην μιλήσω για τους παίκτες όπως Ανρί, Μέσι, Ροναλντίνιο κτλ.
* Τα γραφικά του είναι όπως έπρεπε να είναι στο 2008 !
* Ωραίο μουσική υπόκρουση
* Τα χειριστήρια εκτελούν εντολές κ ανταποκρίνονται οι παίκτες άμεσα.
* Οι κίτρινες/κόκκινες κάρτες βγαίνουν όπως έπρεπε να βγαίνουν, ανάλογα το μαρκάρισμα βγαίνει κ απευθείας κόκκινη, χωρίς να είναι παράλογες.
* Γίνεται χρήση από τους διαιτητές η συνέχιση της φάσης, αν ο παίκτης έχει κρατηθεί όρθιος μετά από φάουλ.
* Τα γκολ μπαίνουν πιο δύσκολα, οι προσωπικές ενέργειες μετρούν παραπάνω.
* Πολύ καλή δυνατότητα του 1-2 πάσες αν οι παίκτες είναι καλοί σε αυτό !
*
*
*.....θα μπορούσα να γράψω κ άλλα θα μας πιάσει μεσημέρι....
Αρνητικά :
* εεεεεεε......μμμμμμ.....αααααα.....
* ...βασικά δεν βρήκα !!!!!
*
* το μόνο που θα μπορούσα να βρω είναι ότι τα γραφικά δεν είναι κ τα τέλεια, τα σούπερ-ντούπερ...
Αλλά αυτό που μετρά είναι το gameplay, όπου το παιχνίδι πραγματικά πετά !!!! :BDGBGDB55:
Αφού πήγα πρώτα σινεμά, γύρισα σπίτι κατά τις 12 κ το έβαλα να το δω...το αποτέλεσμα ήταν κατά τις 2.30 να κοιμηθώ με τα ζόρια, αφού σήμερα έπρεπε να έρθω στο γραφείο.
Εντυπώσεις
Θετικές :
* Φυσική, χωρίς κολλήματα/σπασίματα, κίνηση των παιχτών στο γήπεδο.
* Ο κάθε παίκτης έχει τα χαρακτηριστικά του στο παιχνίδι, ο Ντάρκο για παράδειγμα καμπουριάζει ! Για να μην μιλήσω για τους παίκτες όπως Ανρί, Μέσι, Ροναλντίνιο κτλ.
* Τα γραφικά του είναι όπως έπρεπε να είναι στο 2008 !
* Ωραίο μουσική υπόκρουση
* Τα χειριστήρια εκτελούν εντολές κ ανταποκρίνονται οι παίκτες άμεσα.
* Οι κίτρινες/κόκκινες κάρτες βγαίνουν όπως έπρεπε να βγαίνουν, ανάλογα το μαρκάρισμα βγαίνει κ απευθείας κόκκινη, χωρίς να είναι παράλογες.
* Γίνεται χρήση από τους διαιτητές η συνέχιση της φάσης, αν ο παίκτης έχει κρατηθεί όρθιος μετά από φάουλ.
* Τα γκολ μπαίνουν πιο δύσκολα, οι προσωπικές ενέργειες μετρούν παραπάνω.
* Πολύ καλή δυνατότητα του 1-2 πάσες αν οι παίκτες είναι καλοί σε αυτό !
*
*
*.....θα μπορούσα να γράψω κ άλλα θα μας πιάσει μεσημέρι....
Αρνητικά :
* εεεεεεε......μμμμμμ.....αααααα.....
* ...βασικά δεν βρήκα !!!!!
*
* το μόνο που θα μπορούσα να βρω είναι ότι τα γραφικά δεν είναι κ τα τέλεια, τα σούπερ-ντούπερ...
Αλλά αυτό που μετρά είναι το gameplay, όπου το παιχνίδι πραγματικά πετά !!!! :BDGBGDB55:
Με κάλυψε ο Μιχάλης... 
Μια ωραία προσθήκη στο gameplay: με R2 o συμπαίκτης σου ζητάει μπάλα...
Επίσημα ο server της Konami ανοίγει την Πέμπτη αλλά είναι online από εχτές... που πρόλαβα να παίξω δυο matchάκια! Βελτιωμένο το online κομμάτι,τελικά δεν ήταν τυχαία η δήλωση του 'Seabass' για την προτεραιότητα στο online μέρος του.
Βασικά με εξέπληξε ευχάριστα η πρόοδος της Konami! :SFGSFGSF:
Μια ωραία προσθήκη στο gameplay: με R2 o συμπαίκτης σου ζητάει μπάλα...
Επίσημα ο server της Konami ανοίγει την Πέμπτη αλλά είναι online από εχτές... που πρόλαβα να παίξω δυο matchάκια! Βελτιωμένο το online κομμάτι,τελικά δεν ήταν τυχαία η δήλωση του 'Seabass' για την προτεραιότητα στο online μέρος του.
Βασικά με εξέπληξε ευχάριστα η πρόοδος της Konami! :SFGSFGSF:
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Γιάννη ευχαριστούμε για την πρωτοβουλία!
Στο προκείμενο τώρα:
Είναι αισθητά βελτιωμένο, με αρκετή αληθοφάνεια και πολύ καλύτερα γραφικά.
Πολύ πιο δύσκολο το γκολ, πραγματική απόλαυση το παιχνίδι και σάς το λέει αυτό κάποιος που παίζει ποδοσφαιράκια από την εποχή των spectrum48k….
Το champions league mode είναι πολύ πετυχημένο, το δίκτυο ακόμα δεν το δοκίμασα…
Μόνη παραφωνία τα roster, που είναι όπως ήταν στις αρχές Αυγούστου….
Μήπως να στείλουμε στην ΚΟΝΑΜΙ καμία αθλητική εφημερίδα να διαβάσουν τα νέα?
Ολυμπιακός χωρίς Diogo δεν λέει….
Υπάρχει καμία ελπίδα να διορθωθεί αυτό με κάποιο upgrade?
Στο προκείμενο τώρα:
Είναι αισθητά βελτιωμένο, με αρκετή αληθοφάνεια και πολύ καλύτερα γραφικά.
Πολύ πιο δύσκολο το γκολ, πραγματική απόλαυση το παιχνίδι και σάς το λέει αυτό κάποιος που παίζει ποδοσφαιράκια από την εποχή των spectrum48k….
Το champions league mode είναι πολύ πετυχημένο, το δίκτυο ακόμα δεν το δοκίμασα…
Μόνη παραφωνία τα roster, που είναι όπως ήταν στις αρχές Αυγούστου….
Μήπως να στείλουμε στην ΚΟΝΑΜΙ καμία αθλητική εφημερίδα να διαβάσουν τα νέα?
Ολυμπιακός χωρίς Diogo δεν λέει….
Υπάρχει καμία ελπίδα να διορθωθεί αυτό με κάποιο upgrade?
vageladosgr
Senior Member
ρε παιδια πειτε μου γιατι δεν μπορω να κανω register για να παρω konami id και game id?? οτι και να γραψω μου λεει οτι δεν ειναι διαθεσιμα και να επιλεξω αλλα.... τρια τεταρτα προσπαθουσα χτες.....ps3
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Όλες οι οδηγίες όπου θα χρειαστείτε για το δικτυακό κομμάτι του PES2009 στην αγαπημένη σας συσκευή:
PLAYSTATION®3
ή
Xbox 360
ή
PC.
Χρήσιμη πληροφορία για να βοηθήσουμε το κόκκινο μήνυμα που σου εμφανίζει μετά την απόρριψη.
vageladosgr
Senior Member
Τις οδηγιες τισ ακολουθησα απλα τα κοκκινα γραμματα μου εγραφαν πως τα id που εδινα δεν ηταν διαθεσιμα... και δοκιμασα πανω απο 50 διαφορετικα εντελει κατεληξα σε κατι τυχαια κ ασχετα που τα σημειωσα για να τα θυμαμαι και ελπιζω να μην μου βγαζει αυτα τα ονοματα οταν θα ειμαι on line ... παντως ΠΑΡΑΛΟΓΕΣ ΑΠΑΙΤΗΣΕΙΣ η κοναμι δυο id διαφορετικα, και δυο κωδικους διαφορετικους!! το playstation id δεν της εκανε ? ημαρτον
kpaiss
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- 29 November 2006
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